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Helldivers 2’s Politics Appear To Be Flying Over The Heads Of Some (www.forbes.com)
submitted 7 months ago by Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world to c/games@sh.itjust.works
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There is currently a very funny, kind of sad dust-up over Helldivers 2, in which self-proclaimed “anti-woke” gamers have previously heralded it as a rare game where they believe “politics” does not play a factor. Their faith was been shaken by an Arrowhead community manager they believed they found to be (gasp) progressive who was then subsequently harassed, but their head-scratching reading of Helldivers 2 as a “non-political” game is worth examining.

The only thing that makes sense is that these players have the shallowest of surface-level readings of the game. You are a patriotic soldier serving Super Earth. You must kill bugs and evil robots trying to hurt your brothers-in-arms and innocent citizens. There are no storylines to insert progressive causes into, everyone wears helmets so no “forced diversity.” Therefore, no politics.

Of course, this is…wildly off the mark, as Helldivers 2 is about the most blatantly obvious satire of militaristic fascism since the film that inspired it, Starship Troopers.

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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 222 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I want to make a movie so painfully obvious in its satire that everyone who understands it lives in perpetual psychological torment inflicted on them by all the people who don't.

Brutal. He did it too, he did it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 86 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

But he still toned it down from the book...

The first chapter is them taking a village of anthropomorphic insects over. They didn't have any soldiers, it was just a random village and there's a part where a mother and infant are hiding in a closest, get blasted by a flamethrower, and as the soldier jetbacks away he just shoots rockets everywhere because they get in trouble if they return with any unused ammo.

Just completely blasie about genocide.

Trimming it down to just the one 100% bug race really made it easier to write them off as monsters. But makes sense for a movie.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 51 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Those weren't bugs, those were "Skinnies", humanoid aliens.

They showed up in the animated series, but not the movie.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

humanoid aliens.

I never watched the cartoon, and it's been a while since I read the book, but for some reason I always pictured them like the aliens in Invincible where they're humanoid aliens, but bug like.

I dunno. That's the thing about books, our brains just fill in the gaps.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't remember that in the cartoon, but maybe I missed that episode.

[–] Kallioapina@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A skinny joined the squad in the Roughnecks cartoon. It seems that you missed the whole cartoon.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 1 points 7 months ago

Or I just forgot 😂

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago

Yeah, if I saw that movie I definitely wouldn't have wanted to sign up to go kill bugs after I saw it.

Maybe it should be rebooted as a gritty, Vietnam-esque series.

[–] sxt@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean wasn't the author of the book saying that's how things should be run? I had always heard the movie was basically mocking the premise of the book.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

Nah, dude was a Naval officer that became disillusioned and wrote Stranger in a Strange Land. Hippies called that one "The Hippy Bible" because, well it basically was.

Then there's his modern retelling if Job.

Like, if you read the Lazarus Long novels, there's gonna be some sexism and toxic masculinity, along with some libertarianism shit. But we're talking late 60s/early 70s pulp SciFi. It would be like judging current media because there's always sex scenes and huge explosions.

Its rarely there because the creators want it there, it's there to sell the media.

Starship Troopers is basically about what he feared the military could easily become if it took over the government.

That was kind of Heinleins whole style, you enjoy a book all the the way thru, but by the end everything is completely different and almost unrecognizable from chapter 1.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 63 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Paul Verhoeven is about as subtle as a brick to the skull with his messaging, and people still think movies like RoboCop are pro-police

[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Speaking of which, they made a Robocop videogame recently, too. I haven't played it but I can't imagine it goes any better than this game does, as far as authentically delivering the message of the movie. If you're the cop holding the gun, how does the story deliver the message that police authority is just gang violence done for the rich and powerful?

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 7 months ago

It's always going to fly over the heads of conservative chuds no matter how obvious you make it. Helldivers 2 is absolutely blatant with its satire, and people still miss the point. I've never played Spec Ops: The Line, but I've heard it praised for its brutal depiction of the horrors of war, and people completely missed the point with that one, too.

Some people are so media illiterate that a dictionary to the face would miss them, and conservatives are wilfully ignorant to these messages because it supports their worldview to take things at face value and never dig any deeper. If they thought about things, they wouldn't be able to stay assured in the righteousness of their hatred or the belief that they're the real victims of any situation.

[–] tooLikeTheNope@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Especially brutal considering the average quality of right wing humor in media across the ages, a merciless yet very revealing index of the capacity of the average right winger to gets what is humor and what is not

[–] iegod@lemm.ee 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's so much more polite than the commentary that is warranted for that very same capacity.

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago

I mean, if he didn't want us killing bugs he shouldn't have made it look so cool.

Luckily, our fascists aren't cool at all.