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Why do people say "Catholics and Christians" in (USA) when Catholics are also Christians, as if they refer to it as a different religion. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by Hextubewontallowme@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Is this some sort of remnant of evangelical puritan protestant ideology?

I don't understaun this.

If you ask me, it'd make as much sense as Orthodox and Christians.... or Shia and Muslim...

I know not all Christians are Catholics but for feck's sake...

They're all Christians to me....

Edit:

It's a U.S thing but this is the sort of things I hear...

https://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Christian.html

I am a Catholic. Why should I consider becoming a Christian?

I now know more distinctions (apparently Catholicism requires duty and salvation is process, unlike Protestantism?) but I still think they're of a similar branch (Christianity) so I just wonder the social factor

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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 7 months ago (3 children)

We're talking about "orthodoxy" here. Wikipedia

In Christianity, one of the first creeds established was the Trinity; God is the one God in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. How that works is a mystery unlike anything existing, although we try to illustrate and make parallels.

This is a sharp dividing line for calling anything "Christianity."

Muslims honor Jesus as a prophet, but that does not make them christian, because they deny his deity. Mormons do not believe in only one god (ultimately), or in the Trinity as one, but instead separate see this link.

Both Catholics and Protestants believe in a true Trinity.

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Mormons think we are all going to be gods, and that God was once a man on some planet like we were, and therefore there are literally billions of gods out there. Our God just happens to be the one relevant to us.

Source - Grew up Mormon, am not anymore

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Whoa. I need to talk to some Mormons

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 1 points 7 months ago

Ask them about kolob while you are at it lol

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Congrats on getting out!

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 8 points 7 months ago

Same with Jehovah's Witnesses not agreeing with or affirming the Nicene creed. Generally any sect that denies the Nicene creed is seen as non Christian

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

As a former Mormon, the Trinity issue always seemed like a bogus distinction. I'm sure you can find plenty of sects you would label "Christian" that also believe God the Father and Jesus are separate, distinct entities