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I watched DeMuro's video on it, because it's the first close look I've been able to get without it being marketing nonsense.
The tonneau cover is neat. It's like a rolltop desk cover, motorized.
Literally every other design choice is either stupid or dangerous.
The hard tonneau cover is often an option on most trucks.
Motorized tonneau covers are aftermarket addons that add around 2k to the price of the vehicle, plus installation.
They also take up a not insignificant amount of space near the front of the bed with the canister.
Teslas solution genuinely looks pretty good all things considered. Time will tell how they hold up. People are usually 50/50 on if they like their tonneau covers or think that they’re leaky garbage.
Ok I can see you are an enthusiast about this issue, and that’s fine with me. My question is how many of you are there, who would consider a really obviously flawed truck that costs at least 30k more than a real truck because it has a nice tonneau that would save you 2k?
As long as you can impale pedestrians on the sharp front corners, it's all good.
And chop off your fingers if you close the frunk on em
I think some truck people are considering a cyber truck, but likely more potential customers are cross shopping it against luxury SUVs or loaded pickups. It has utility, but it’s also cool and a great way to show your neighbors that you either have money to burn or that you’re trendy. When a Suburban or Yukon stickers for around 70k and blends in with traffic, you need something else to make a statement.
Until a cybertruck is legitimately 50k or widely available used for cheaper, it’s out of reach of the average owner.
The cover is cool, but it won’t be the sole feature that switches somebody from buying a conventional 50k crew cab pickup for getting groceries into a an 80k crew cab electric pickup for getting groceries.
That all being said, I’d love to own one to get groceries in if somebody offered me one for cheap. I like boxy 80s cars so the style works for me.
I appreciate the detailed response. I don’t know if someone who is considering a similarly priced luxury vehicle would find the spartan interior to be adequate, but hey I’m also more of a 40k vehicle kind of guy so that’s not my role to play here.
I have Maverick hybrid and I love it. It’s not a “real” truck, but I’m not in need of one. I got it used and it came with a pretty nice tonneau. Also it’s closer to the ranger’s size than the current ranger, which has that tooted up rear end woof.
I got a santa-cruz. Originally wanted a Mav hybrid but they were unobtainable at the time, and I lucked into a hell of a deal on fully loaded SC.
It's got the roll cover. I originally had planned on taking it off because, as noted, the canister takes significant space, but all in all it's just to damn convenient. While I agree the way tesla did their cover seems slick, I'd have a lot of reservations about it being motorized, especially with Teslas build quality issues.
But @car@hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com I think is right. At the price point, you're not buying for practicality anymore. No one needs a vehicle at that price point (unless your legitimately hauling horses across multiple states or something), so they're buying on feel. But ultimately I think that's going to be what the death knell of Tesla is. The tech is no longer leading, there are still build issues, and the "statement" someone would be looking to make by paying that sticker is rapidly not becoming a good one.
And I'm in the same boat. They're my kind of hideous. I'd love one someday, but I'd pay about as much as I'd pay for an MGB or Triumph, because I put it in the same category.