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I can wear a dress to work and nobody criticizes me. I’d be really sad if I had to wear pants all the time, they’re just not as comfortable. Let’s normalize pretty dresses for dudes!

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[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 168 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Yea, but let's design some to work on male bodies. Dresses are generally built for female body shapes, and rely on curves most guys just don't have in order to complete the shape - so we end up looking like Graveyard Barbie in them.

Guys tend to be a lot more oblong, and the overall design would need a rethink in order to actively work with that shape, instead of unsuccessfully trying to compensate for it.

No, I don't know how to do this.

[–] schrodingers_dinger@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was a slutty nun for Halloween and looking cute in a skirt is definitely possible, but man does it take a lot of work to find anything that fits decently. Dresses are simply impossible to find of course because, as you said, the shape is not at all made for men.

Also that outfit made me want to go full f1nn5ter and dress up in feminine clothes all the time lol. It's so much fun! I'm so down for people to figure out how to make the shape work for masculine body shapes.

[–] boeman@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was a slutty nun for Halloween

Just don't make it a habit.

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know if I could keep that vow.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

TBH, I would rather be a slutty nun than a slutty priest.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You better, unless you want to hurt your temples

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

We needn't worry, my cloister is hardened.

[–] pragmakist@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My first thought when I read op was that trousers are a relative new development.

The Romans made fun of the Gauls for wearing them.

So if you decide to wear traditional Roman dress, trousers shouldn't be included.

But it's still designed for men.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty cool how the Romans just took a good idea from a more primitive culture. Guess there wasn't anyone around to scream about cultural appropriation.

[–] pragmakist@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Romans calling the Gauls primitive is a bit like the British calling the Americans primitive.

True, but for Gods sake don't look in the mirror.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Took me a while to figure you were referring to native americans, not the current 'muricans

[–] pragmakist@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, what? No!

Yeah, well, I'm sorry, but yes viewing the current Merkins as stupidly violent savages is a thing on this side of the Atlantic.

We Europeans on the other hand would never attack someone without reason.

We've always had reasons, usually some variation of wanting their possesion for ourselves.

And warning: This post contains sarcasm.

[–] kaba0@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Are you British? This sick sarcastic humor is so British, and I love it!

[–] Snafu@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

Dudes in parts of Africa and the Middle East have already got it figured out. Djellabas look fantastic on most men. I'd love to see more people wearing them.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More like Robes than Dresses, maybe? Could start with some Indian or Middle Eastern fashions as a starting point...

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, a men's salwar kameez would make a damn good start, but I don't want to limit it...

[–] HappySerf@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Love my khurta

[–] poplargrove@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That does involve pants though. I think something like a sarong is what they were referring to.

[–] SolarNialamide@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It wouldn't be that hard, I think. Just make it more square on top and drop the accentuating part from the waist to either halfway between the belly button and hips or all the way to the hips. Or you could raise it to chest height and have a long, straight bottom part, more robe-ish.

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Agreed! There are a few enterprising designers out there with cool menswear dresses, but it’s still super niche.

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I’ve seen Billy Porter in a gown or two. I’d add a link but not sure how to do that in Voyager / wefwef yet.

[–] CanineBite@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Link me too please

You're coming dangerously close to re-inventing the kilt

[–] Cybermass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Robes like from solar opposites

[–] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

A lot of Muslim men wear what appear to me to be long white skirts, especially in the middle east and north Africa where wearing a flowing, loose garment that reflects lots of light is a practical measure for staying cool. I think it's called a Kandora?

My point is that such garments DO exist, they just aren't common in the west because of western views of male gender norms and Islam.