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I don't think people on this sub use it, but it's great news for us. The worse it gets the likelier people move on.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 45 points 7 months ago (3 children)

mumble is free and open source.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So is Matrix and it includes self-hosting and end-to-end encryption enabled by default.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Did they rewrite that crappy Python server in something with better performance by now? I tried self-hosting Matrix a few years ago and gave up after the one room I joined hadn't finished syncing after a whole day (admittedly it was their main matrix chat room with lots of members but still).

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)

https://matrix.org/ecosystem/servers/

There are multiple options for homeservers and the Python one is just one of several implementations. There are others written in C++, Rust, Go!, etc.

[–] troed@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Just don't make a new install with Dendrite - it's not really supported anymore. And no automated automation for us who do have Dendrite servers ...

Synapse if you plan to go large, otherwise Conduit, would be my recommendation.

[–] solarbabies@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

is your automation automated? mine's manual I'm jealous

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That hasn't been an issue for a year if you've enabled sliding sync. It is very fast nowadays. Look into element-x https://github.com/element-hq/element-x-android

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sliding sync doesn’t make joining Matrix HQ any faster. This is depending on your hardware and whether or not you have any workers configured. For most users it isn’t worth joining that room anyway.

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why not? I'm not in mhq but why is it different than other rooms?

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It’s the amount of users and servers in the room. When you join it on a new server it needs to process and verify the state of the room and agree it with all the servers. As the state is massive in this room it can take a very long time to join it.

If you want to learn more read this: https://matrix.org/docs/older/stateres-v2/

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Thx. So the first time the server joins the room it's slow. Any subsequent joins are faster

[–] Link@rentadrunk.org 3 points 7 months ago

Correct! Although if you are the only user on the server subsequent joins don’t matter.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Element doesn't support sliding sync

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It depends on your skillset. If you can self host services in docker, matrix should not be an issue anymore. Its still nowhere ready for everyone at this point but is constantly improving.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Docker changes nothing about the performance characteristics of a service. If anything back then a full server dedicated to it wouldn't have been enough.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 7 months ago

i know that. My comment was concerning the „hostability“ in general. The performance is okay imo. Joining large rooms will still take a couple minutes but no whole day.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 32 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Isn't Mumble just a voice chat software? I don't think that is the main use case for Discord for most people.

[–] Alk@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

Yeah, discord is for running a community not just chatting in voice.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Idk, me and all my friends use discord for vc, plus screenshots and memes while we chat. You can do that in mumble. Not sure about broadcasting or anything (I started a server yesterday after the news broke), maybe there are extensions. Discord is just a means to an end for us.

[–] endhits@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

And no one uses it. The last time I used mumble was over a decade ago and its use was short lived.