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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I think we can be a little more respectful in our disagreement no?

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Just stating the obvious. If it's really religion banning donating organs, not only do they take bodily autonomy from you but also the chance to help save someone else's life. That would be a shitty religion

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The religion bans desecrating corpses, which includes dissection. Donating organs while alive is Ok

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I stand with my original statement, if the religion favors dead over the living.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

The religion can’t “ban” you, they don’t have governmental authority or a police force. The person chooses to participate and chooses not to donate. Unless they live in a particularly authoritarian theocracy it is likely this is a choice.

I disagree entirely with their decision but it’s important to not wildly mischaracterize it as not a decision. They can be an organ donor if they want and live their lives if they choose.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I mean of course they (usually) can't force you, but you'd go with religion's guidelines because you trust on the authority and peer pressure, potentially also threatened with eternal damnation of some sort.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 2 points 7 months ago

Didn’t say it was a fair fight

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You actually can't choose your beliefs. Either something convinces you or it doesn't. They could choose to not live in accordance with their beliefs, or course, but that would be intellectually dishonest.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I didn’t say you can choose your beliefs. This person can decide if they want to adhere to the rules of a religious apparatus or not. Millions of religious people around the world do this every day. Most people even under the banner of a religious institution choose to ignore or downplay key elements constantly. See: Catholics who support a woman’s access to abortion. They are not in line with the church. They know this and choose not to be while still attending church and believing in most of the church’s teaching.

Most people do not adhere to 100% every rule and regulation of their faith. Believe it or not religious people are capable of nuance.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Did you not read my second sentence then?

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes. Clearly I did. If you’re not going to to respond substantively than just don’t respond.