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    [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It's the usual problem: if your employer IT refuses to budge, you get locked into a Windows (or Apple) ecosystem. I had the same. My solution was to remove myself from corporate IT, and use my own device.

    I use workarounds for the interfaces with corporate:

    • MS Teams Linux client (sadly discontinued as of 2022) still works out of a jail, but the browser solution is also tested and ready as backup should I be forced
    • Webmail instead of a proper mail proram - that's a big trade-off, but I can work with it, as much as it sucks
    • Webex for conferencing (as it works properly with Firefox, contrary to many other solutions)
    • Web portals continue to work - even though sometimes I need a user agent switcher to pretend I am using chrome (fuck you @MS Teams)
    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    There's mail apps for Linux. I think thunderbird is most popular.

    [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    My point was about corporate IT refusing to provide a mail server to the outside world.

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    So no IMAP/POP3 server or what do you mean? If so how does the web app work?

    [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    Webapp probably uses Exchange services internally and exposes only a web interface to the internet

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    Ah, I suppose that makes sense.

    [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

    In the end, web front-ends always allow to expose selected parts of any kind of internal (potentially insecure) protocols to the internet through a demilitarized zone that only allows https protocol.

    It's like being allowed to watch the data you are interested in through a glass window, but no touching :)

    [–] i_am_hiding@aussie.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

    I take it webmail is due to Exchange-based mail?

    The €10 I pay a year for Exquilla is worth its weight in gold. It's about the only thing on my system that's not FOSS, but I'm not even mad because it works. 9.5/10 would recommend.

    [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

    Yes that's due to Exchange. Thank you for the pointer to Exquilla - I'd gladly be willing to pay for that out of my own pocket, but there's three problems:

    • closed source plugin, which I don't want on my machine if I can avoid it
    • convincing my company to expose EWS (unless OWA uses the same interface, which I doubt?)
    • Microsoft seems to plan decommissioning of EWS:

    https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/exchange-team-blog/retirement-of-exchange-web-services-in-exchange-online/ba-p/3924440

    Quote:

    Today, we are announcing that on October 1, 2026, we will start blocking EWS requests from non-Microsoft apps to Exchange Online.