Then don't build it and we're fine. I'm angry because I'm disabled and Solarpunk is usually Ableist yet everyone is obsessed with social media detox and lumping all technologies in with it.

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The solarpunk you've imagined in your head is ableist. Solarpunk is but an aesthetic. Don't assume so much and try to understand more nuance.

[–] OpenTTD@lemmy.zip 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How do I live the life I want to live in a setting that tells me I "don't really enjoy this, you're just brainwashed by capitalism" over and over? By fighting back.

You and the aesthetic (idea) you follow are not powerless and you desire a world I am excluded from, purely because the part of my life I enjoy most (the fulfilment of escapism) doesn't fit into that worldview. I am probably not going to change anything, but so be it I wanted my position to be clear. You propose taking away a life(style) that I enjoy, and I want to point out that is what you're proposing. I cannot hold a job, I have issues which are permanent and pervasive that exclude any existence in a community-focused world and if solarpunk will not accommodate that then I will not accommodate it. I can't kill an idea, nobody can, but maybe I can get people to realise that solarpunk is not about only good improvements, it has a dark side and that dark side is that there are innocent people who fall through the cracks when only "the greater good" is considered.

[–] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

First I'll say I can't speak for others claiming to be "solarpunk", nobody owns this word. The following are my opinions of solarpunk.

Solarpunk isn't about forcing everyone to live within the aesthetic. Because solarpunk is an aesthetic it manifests mostly in art, but just because an element is not common in solarpunk art doesn't mean it's not welcome in what one might call a "solarpunk world".

You don't see goths wearing all black in solarpunk art either, that doesn't mean solarpunks want to ban goths. You are into escapism, that doesn't really lend itself to depictions of solarpunk art. Solarpunk art is about promoting some ideals, escapism (while not excluded) isn't one of those so why would it be included in the art?

If there is such a thing as a solarpunk ideology, it would be akin to anarcho-communism. Solarpunk/Anarcho-communism is not about exclusion. It's not about forcing everyone to sing kum ba ya or GTFO. A community based world isn't about forcing social interaction, it's about society being driven by the needs of the community rather than the needs of a wealthy owner class, AND YOU ARE PART OF THAT COMMUNITY JUST AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE.

In the solarpunk world I want, you don't have to "earn a living", you're a human and inherently valueable. A solarpunk world will have better video games because they'd be made for the love of the game, not for profit motive.

If there is something one wants that necessitates harming others to produce or acquire and they view themselves as entitled to it at the expense of others then that is not an innocent person falling through the cracks.