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Cleopatra VII would be one of these; she's always depicted as being beautiful, but she was so inbred that she put Charles II of Spain to shame. Just look at this family ~~tree~~wreath:
Cleopatra's coefficient of inbreeding was a fucking staggering 0.45, so almost half her alleles were probably identical. Charles II's inbreeding coefficient was a paltry 0.25 and he looked like this, so I leave it to you to ponder how hot Cleopatra would have been exactly:
A high coefficient of inbreeding means you get a higher chance of bad things happening. You can still win the genetic lottery even with bad odds.
Maybe Mark Anthony was into that slack-jawed gormless look - you never know what causes a career politician to abandon the empire!
Ok, but using a hapsburg as an example of what inbreeding looks like isn't very representative. That family specifically wanted to look like that. they were very proud of their "noble countenances". That's more the result of the generations of selective breeding by the previous generation choosing marital successors. They're more pugs really, Rather than examples of the general effects of incest. If you want more general results of inbreeding, maybe look to the Whitaker's. Though, they also likely have other preexisting mental health issues in their family, and there's no data about their actual family tree.
In reality tough, it's likely one of those things that's not as consistent as "they get all fucked up looking after x amount of inbreeding" there's just too many factors at play. And I mean, speaking of pugs, they're no more inbred than golden retrievers. Golden retrievers are beautiful and loving dogs that will die to cancer by the age of 10. So even when inbreeding issues do manifest, it's not always going to make you ugly.
I don't understand the graph, how do 3 people make a baby?
Seriously dude? There are so many videos online that show this.
Are you seriously questioning if someone doesn’t understand the data in the way it was presented and then following it up with a “oh my god it’s so easy” type statement?
Are you seriously so naïve that you think it wasn't a sex joke?
Horizontal connected lines indicate siblings, not marital relation
I don't understand why Ptolomy XII and Cleopatra III are drawn with a different connection to their parents. The local tree looks the same for both, but the lines are drawn differently.
Edit: nevermind, I scrolled down and saw the comment with the better picture.
With cum, cum.
What does the different types of lines mean? Solid vs lines vs dotted?
It's really badly done. This one seems better:
where did Cleopatra 6 go
Probably ran off with the wrong Ptolemy
She outbred
Yeah I have no clue what's happening on the lower half of the image.
When your grandfather is also your great-grandfather and the brother of your other grandfather.
Yeah, that inbreeding coefficient just proves harder in my mind that Cleopatra looked Greek as fuck, and maybe looked a little.... melted