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German Chancellor Olaf Scholz in Israel: cannot stand by as Palestinians risk starvation (www.reuters.com)

submitted 7 months ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/europe@feddit.de

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While many countries have expressed similar concerns, the warning was unusually stark for the German leader, who has continuously underscored Israel's right to defend itself after Hamas' Oct. 7 assault on the country that killed 1,200 people, according to Israeli tallies.

"The more desperate the situation of the people in Gaza becomes, the more this begs the question: No matter how important the goal can it justify such terribly high costs, or are there other ways to achieve your goal?" Scholz said at a joint appearance with Netanyahu in Jerusalem.

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[–] dubbel@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The +30k confirmed death toll in Gaza includes Hamas fighters. In mid-February according to Hamas 6000 of their combatants have been killed, according to Israel 12000, so the true number will be somewhere in the middle.

Still, a terrible price the civilians of Gaza are paying of course.

[+] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No according to Reuters "anonymous source". Not Hamas.

And the 1200 killed on oct7 includes 373 IDF terrorists.

[–] dubbel@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for clarifying.

Hamas does not provide any figures for its military fatalities. The Reuters news agency reported that an official had admitted 6,000 fighters had been killed, but Hamas denied this figure to the BBC.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68387864

I didn't mention the 1.2k killed Israelis, and as such also didn't describe all of them as civilians, like OP did in the case of the Palestinian casualties.

Unfortunately you disqualified yourself from further discussions by describing all IDF soldiers as terrorists. You might have noticed that I described the Hamas casualties in Gaza as "fighters" to avoid using charged terms, even though they are part of a terrorist group according to the EU and in my opinion could be described as such.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So what you mean is that your source was not credible and you try to semantics out by pretending the IDF isn't a terrorist organisation and israel isn't a terrorist group.