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[–] gingernate@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A conviction leads to sentencing (normally) in a criminal matter. A cival court is settling a cival matter, not a criminal one. Criminal courts convict you of a crime and sentence you to some kind of punishment. Cival courts can make you pay a fine, but not convict you of a crime.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Again, another argument of semantics.

Would change nothing for me, maybe for yourself, to say Donald Trump was found liable of sexual assault by a judge and jury in the court of law.

Edit:

You keep obfuscating, though.

[–] gingernate@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Sure, he's a rapist. But not a convicted rapist. That's all that's being said

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That would be a more accurate statement, yes.

But there's more to it than just semantics. There's also the level of certainty - civil trials have a dramatically lower standard of evidence than criminal trials.

So when you say he's been convicted of rape, you're saying that 12 people were convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that he committed rape. But that's not the case - instead a judge was convinced it was at least slightly more likely than not that he committed rape. That's a very different standard.