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[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Don’t say “so to speak” in a forum comment, you’re not Eugen Dühring. How do these definitions not fit reality? In Liberalism, Losurdo (referenced above by commiewithoutorgans) goes through history and explains what liberalism actually is, i.e. herrenvolk liberty. The currently recognized originators of liberalism were supporters of slavery, and now liberals are supporters of imperialism.

Liberals are not allies in reforms, both because reforms will never be enough, liberals as supporters of the status quo eventually becoming enemies regardless, but also because even in these “reforms” they are cowardly. US liberals can’t even stop an active genocide being perpetrated by their government, and a vast majority of those liberals in government actively support it.

Liberals oppose democracy for enemy nations (and under the guise of “promoting democracy” depose the elected/popular leaders of these nations), they oppose real democracy (rule of the majority) in any nation, they absolutely oppose real equality by upholding the privileges of landlords and capitalists, and they oppose guaranteed standards of living. Newsom, the liberal (recognized by the majority as such!) governor of California, has been in favor of the state’s use of violence to clear homeless encampments; every “liberal” US president has kept migrants in concentration camps at the border despite immigration being largely a result of US imperialism as well as refusing to provide guaranteed housing to the unhoused population. If you think they are not liberals, then you are “a small subsection of society, a bubble so to speak.” Is it fair to say that it’s the people that wear this label who’ve rewritten words and history to paint themselves as simply “supporters of liberty”?

And I am absolutely not opposed to the abolition of term limits. Talk about opposition to democracy, term limits are a check on democracy itself, telling the population they cannot vote for someone again. Term limits for the US presidency were introduced after the repeated elections of the overwhelmingly popular FDR.

Lastly, liberals are supporters of capitalism; half of the dictionary definitions available include “support for a free market” as a fundamental aspect of liberalism.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

So to speak, you see, quite understandably so, I can speak however I like, indeed, quite right, shitbag.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Shut the fuck up stupid piece of shit, go slam your head in a car door. Other comrades are gonna put up with your bullshit and try and educate you but I'm in ad-hominem mode.

Looking through your comment history you truly are the most trivial motherfucker I've encountered in a while. Coming in here and running an absolutely default smug liberal redditor dialogue tree.

You are not an """intellectual""", you're an LLM trained on a fiftieth generation facsimile of a bad impression of a teleporter accident between Douglas Adams and Terry Pratchett. You would fail the Turing test. My fellows are trying to raise you to sentience, but personally I'd keep you in a museum as proof that p-zombies do exist.

Your next line is "UM ACKTUALLY- UM IN THE DICTIONARY-" instead just stop posting.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

Your next line is "UM ACKTUALLY- UM IN THE DICTIONARY-" instead just stop posting.

jotaro-walk

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago

I will consider your words.

Done. I've decided to disregard.

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Am I allowed to talk? Is it my turn to talk yet? I can say whatever I want, it's called free speech nerd" type reply

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago

Lmao he thought I was asking a question.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Your parents failed in raising you