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[–] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You're a liar.

In the 25 January 2006 Palestinian legislative election, Hamas won 74 or 76 seats of the 132 seats in the Palestinian Legislative Council, an absolute majority. Fatah only won 43, four seats went to independents supporting Hamas.[187] The elections were judged by international observers to have been "competitive and genuinely democratic". The EU said that they had been run better than elections in some member countries of the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas#2006_legislative_elections

It's sad you have all those upvotes while spouting lies, but it's another reason why what's upvoted is not necessarily correct.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the upvotes have nothing to do with the statement about how Hamas was elected, which is frankly not that interesting, and everything to do with the fact that the commenter correctly identified Hamas as a religio-fascist organization. You can disagree without calling someone a liar. It is more conducive to conversation to assume that someone is mistaken or has different information than you do. Calling someone a liar is contrary to the spirit of good faith debate.

[–] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Calling someone a liar is contrary to the spirit of good faith debate.

Lol, what? If someone is lying, then calling them out on it is good for debate.

Just going along with it is bad for debate. You got things backwards, bub.

It's okay, though. I suspect you're just a tribalist who twists his head in knots to do whatever will make you look good in front of the tribe.

I see it all the time and don't expect more from you people at this point.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, calling someone a liar is making an assumption about their intentions, which, in most cases, you do not know.

Sure, when you hear false statements from a public figure all the time, like Trump for example, you can eventually have enough data to conclude that he is a liar. Do you have that kind of data on the commenter you replied to? No? Well, then it is more appropriate to assume they are mistaken. At least in English, calling someone a liar is very, very aggressive.

[–] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Hey man, believe whatever you want and discuss however you please.

I disagree with what you're saying and stand by my previous assertions.

Have a nice day.

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, you're obviously a liar.

Anyway, you being a silly dickhead aside, I corrected my post because it turns out that you were at least correct about the context of the elections. It's a good thing I'm more interested in getting clear and contextually correct information out there or you being such a shit head might've caused me to dig my heels in deeper, which literally would be counter to your purported intent (though I suspect you just want to be right and yell at people, and don't give a shit at all about much beyond that). Have a shit day. :)

[–] fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. Your personal attacks make you seem very credible and reasonable.

I'm sorry you're so angry that I called you out for lying. Maybe in the future you shouldn't lie so you don't get called out on it.

[–] FatCrab@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago

Yea, certainly seems like you have no sincere interest in this issue but are just another buzzard. Gross.