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Germany Looks to Stop the Far Right From Assuming Power (www.nytimes.com)

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[-] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 6 months ago

You realize that you sound as extreme as those you want to destroy? I can't really tell the difference between Nazis and the likes of you anymore.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

sounds like you see more nazis than we do. We don't have this kind of problem of not understanding who is who. We know who the enemy is and what they deserve. if your understanding of fascists is this shallow it's no wonder you'd sympathize with them

[-] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 6 months ago

Who is "we"? A radical group of left wing fascists?

[-] axont@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

If you wanna insult me please call me a queer Marxist Stalinist devil worshiper or something, because that would be more accurate. Call me a North Korea apologist because that's true. I'd also readily accept insults like baizuo or first world crakkker, because those are unfortunately also true.

i think fascist for you just means "scary person with bad ideas." if it's only a pejorative to you, rather than a specific identifiable movement, then you're not gonna get it. I recommend reading Robert O. Paxton, or Marxist theorists like Antonio Gramsci or (my personal favorite) the historian Perry Anderson. They've all written on the particular contours of fascist ideology and how to identify it, rather than treating it as simply a set of violent tendencies.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

If you're fascist and antifascists come for you, you have a choice. You can give it up. You can go renounce what you said. You could just go on with the rest of your life and stop turning up at fascist rallies. Anti fascists probably aren't going to buy you a pint and be your best friend but they'll move on. But if you're a person of color, if you're trans, or a person with a disability or gay or Jewish, and fascists come for you, there is nothing you can do to make them happy except stop existing. If you're a political enemy of antifa, you can become a friend. If you're a political enemy of fascism, either they lose or you die.

Abigail Thorn, The Philosophy of Antifa