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Palestinian town of Jericho names street after US soldier who set himself on fire
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I really don't understand, my definition of Liberal has always been "Favoring reform, open to new ideas, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; not bound by traditional thinking; broad-minded" which is something I subscribe to. Before I came to lemmy I never even heard of people refer to liberals as anything other than that.
Now if you were to say "Liberal Party of NY" or "Liberal Party of Canada" etc then I can see how more specific political beliefs across their ranks could be made points out of, but if you just say all Liberals then you sound like a frother to me.
What they mean is neo-liberal which requires some reading. “Classical” liberal politics has been dead for a few decades.
Idk about that, the NY Liberal Party started in 1940 which barred Communist Party members from joining (other than their founding members). Seems like the more classical liberalism examples were more conservative to me.
In America the Democrats are considered "liberal" as they adopt left policies when they become too popular to ignore. Some examples :
Black rights(MLK, Malcolm X), Vietnam war, Iraq, Afghanistan.
When they happened and you spoke out, liberals would ridicule you. "No America wouldn't commit war crimes in Iraq they are the terrorists and we're the heroes"!
Now the same is happening for israel which are clearly committing a Genocide yet the liberals are frantically supporting it. When you say "stop doing Nazi shit" they look at you like you're the crazy one. Now public opinion is shifting so hard they are starting to turn and will pretend they were on the "correct side" all along
Liberals were pushing back against all of the "leftie" policies until public opinion shifted so far that they decided to jump ship for voters.
Don't forget marriage equality. It was Bill Clinton who championed the Defense of Marriage Act and signed it into law.
People have forgotten that Bill Clinton won his second term by championing himself as having the best aspects of the Democrats and the Republicans (basically he called himself the Hannah Montana of politics) and Hillary Clinton believed abortion was a states' right issue (the mess we have today).
Once again, the definition in your social circles which are commonplace here on Lemmy directly contradict the actual definition of the political stance.
You can thank (American) politics for that. Where left is right and right is extreme right. Terms get hijacked by everyone until they lose their meaning.
In fact most Western countries with "liberal" parties still support israel.
What is still in line with the definition is that liberals accept policies from the progressives once they become popular enough to win votes with. Liberals are against thing until it becomes unpopular to be against thing.
Only 9 countries opposed the UN Resolution on Gaza in December:
Yes because it started becoming severely unpopular. Check how many were opposing it before that.
Also many countries such as Germany and Canada are still sending israel weapons for Genocide.
Cool so we agreed you lied.
Sending weapons to a country actively committing Genocide does mean they support them.
Voting for a ceasefire full well knowing the US will veto it changes nothing.
Liberals tend to say that the system just needs a few tweaks here and there while the reality is that the entire thing is rotten to the core and the stuff they enjoy now in their "developed" countries was built upon centuries of exploitation of other people, which is still ongoing stronger than ever.
When confronted with these facts, some liberals act defensively and instead of learning and growing in their understanding, they start aligning with right wing thinking. That's why the saying goes "scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds".
I assure you that destroying democracy and rule of law will not lead to good outcomes for you or anyone else, and certainly doesn't fit the definition of "progressive reform."