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[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I can't even tell anymore whether this meme is pro-Democrat or pro-Republican, anti-American, anti-Semitic, post-ironic or just cursed.

[–] glizzyguzzler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You do not understand the US primary system.

This me-me is anti-genocide. How could it be anti-Semitic? Anti-American? Insane you could reach for those.

People are driven by the genocide of the Palestinians to stop it. The title is jarring, divisive, and highly critical on purpose: 30,000+ Palestinian civilians are dead and counting. Biden has not done enough to end the genocide that the US enables, hence he is targeted by this me-me.

The uncommitted vote in the 2nd term incumbent US Democrat primary, which this me-me depicts, is a safe way to draw attention to the significant need for the US to exercise its power and end the genocide. Biden is not running against anyone with credible support, he will sweep the nomination guaranteed as he is a popular president.

There is no credible call to not vote for Biden in the general. If you see such a call, that is actually republican astroturfing or Russian bots at work. Anyone sane and rational is well aware the fascist republicans are worse, even if Biden does not act to end the genocide - as the fascists have already said they would “complete the mission”.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There is no credible call to not vote for Biden in the general.

oh yah after labeling him Genocide Joe there's no call to bahahaahaha

did your parents drop you on your head?

[–] glizzyguzzler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago

Are you from the US and do you understand the non committed vote movement? It has explicit goals, to get a tally-able amount of people who want the Palestinian genocide to end.

So the guy who made the me-me called him “Genocide Joe”, that’s not representative of the entire the non committed vote movement. But some do call him that, as you have seen, and they call him that with reason. It’s a polarizing monicker to draw attention to the 30,000+ dead and counting. They want it to stop, those are 30,000+ civilians dead in systematic genocide. They will not call him that if he genuinely tries to end the genocide by pressuring Israel like the US is fully set up to do (the US funds the majority of Israel’s military and the US props up the Israeli economy).

Try harder to be human, it’s not about the name people call some guy, it’s the people dead and dying who have no escape and no protection.

[–] KISSmyOS@feddit.de 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How could it be anti-Semitic? Anti-American?

If I were a Russian propagandist tasked with eroding support for Biden and reducing US influence in the middle east, this wouldn't be a bad meme to post.

[–] glizzyguzzler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 months ago

Support for Biden’s actions on the topic of the Palestinian genocide has long been negligible among those who do not want to see a peoples murdered. This uncommitted vote movement is just one more form of protest, among many. This is not the start of the anti-genocide protests. But people with any sane rational are well aware Biden will be better than the fascist alternative, come the general election.

And how is US influence in the Middle East reduced? The US props up Israel, if the US uses its paid-for influence to stop the genocide now, Israel will still be dependent on US assistance and 30,000+ civilians and most of Gaza has already been destroyed - a significant destruction of the Palestinian open air prison is already done. Israel will continue to be a US proxy.

Now not stopping the genocide is giving Iran undue influence and is reducing the US’ influence in the Middle East since the majority of the peoples in the Middle East can very easily empathize with the Palestinians’ plight.

Not ending the genocide now (and before) is detrimental to US interests and the people who are fucking dead

[–] Luminocta@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

It really does get confusing. But 196 isn't the most serious instance so I just let it slide, give it a lil downvote and go about my business.