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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy promotes using Matrix, which is a separate service, so instance admins don't need to be in the business of hosting private conversations.

Matrix is end-to-end encrypted so even the admins of your Matrix server could not provide your chats to law enforcement.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish Lemmy was as well. Ah well.

[–] b3nsn0w@pricefield.org 1 points 1 year ago

It's not really possible as long as Lemmy is a website. E2EE works on Matrix because it's an app, and therefore it can manage your encryption keys in ways a browser cannot do for you. (You can save things in the client, but not in a reliable enough way for something like the master key for every communication you ever had that if you lose you get locked out of all your chat history.) In the case of Lemmy, the signing keys for your federated actions are handled by the server, which is perfectly fine for 99% of what you use Lemmy for (public posts and comments), but it also means that even if they implemented E2EE for chats, the keys to decrypt the convo would be right on the same server.

That's why Lemmy actively pushes you to set up a Matrix account, because Matrix makes better tradeoffs for the purposes of messaging, while Lemmy's tradeoffs are more relevant to a link aggregator style social media.