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[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Are you there in Argentina?

I have noticed that Argentina seems to go in 25 year cycles since Peron. The junta in the 70s privatized a lot and cut social services (not to mention the catastrophic human rights violations), then Menem at the end of the 90s did somewhat the same, and now in 2024 Milei is cutting public spending / social services, and privatizing whatever can be privatized. Is that at all what really has been happening in Argentina?

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

First, this is just my opinion and I don't fully understand the situation cause it started way before I was born, and being inside this mess makes everything fuzzy.

The peak of argentinian economy was in the 20s, 30s, when our economy was tied to UK. UK built extensive infraestructure and produced a constant demand of our grains, our lands were more vast and fertile than today, Northern lands (uruguay, brazil) were not as suitable for cattle and sowing as they are today, Panama canal was just starting to operate and most of the international commerce was still being forced to move thorough our waters. All of that faded away and we never truly matched our population growth and needs with our slow lose of wealth and relevancy.

After the 30s we started a slow debacle. Social unrest let Peron rise to power in 45' and from then on we got into a loop of crisis mixed with military coups and with our two main parties prioritizing destroying each other over making this land viable. Peronism tried to destroy the aristocrat class by milking the land which was their main source of wealth and ucr/military tried to suppress peronism by leaving them out of elections. Since Peron, Menem was the first peronist president that ended his term, and Macri the first non peronist to do so.

Nepotism, corruption are a common thing in both parties. And specially today, peronism has grown into a big mafia.

25 years is too much, we live in constant crisis here with small windows of economical "growth".

If you ask me what our problem is, it is that our erratic political decisions are inconsistent with what we have and what we can offer to the world.

As a joke, we generally say that the problem of Argentina is that it is full of Argentinians.

Also, whenever you see a pretty good economical growth like the first government of the kirchners, it is that we either had a pretty good sowing session or that we are just recovering from a strong crisis.

[–] tiziodcaio@feddit.it 1 points 8 months ago

Interesting theory