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lumpenproletariat vs. unproductive labour (lemmy.ml)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by birdcat@lemmy.ml to c/communism101@lemmygrad.ml

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I provide a service for direct use (forgot the real term).

as an independent worker with my own business I am not an organized worker and have no solidarity with ppl who do the same job. true lumpen.

but then learned about the whole concept of unproductive labour. there is no capitalist who steals my surplus value. true unproductive worker?

what am I?

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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you have employees? Then yeah, small bourgeois. If it's just you? Owner-operator.

Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I always thought of unproductive labor as work that served a detrimental function in society -- the billing department of a hospital, for example.

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

i underatood it as not producing value for a capitalist, but might be wrong about that too.