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Ukrainian drones smashing into Russian refineries lately seems to be having an effect.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 11 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Russia is one of the largest exporter of gasoline. I suppose the plan is to secure the availability for themselves while increasing gasoline prices in the rest of the world, but they'll foremost be a nuisance to their closest trading partners.

My country is not one. I also don't buy gasoline, so I really don't give a shit. For all I care, gasoline prices should increase, because the world as a whole has bigger issues with not buying fossil fuels than it has with economy or Russian domestic bullshit from a dying gangster billionaire.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I agree with you in sentiment about the need to divest from fossil fuels, but cannot agree with your "it doesn't affect me, personally, so let prices skyrocket" position.

[–] teft@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Especially since gasoline price increases affect everyone except for nomadic tribes. Everything you buy is more than likely transported via fossil fuel based vehicles. That fuel price is added into the cost at some point. Higher gas prices means higher prices for everything.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

It also gives an excuse for executives to raise prices more than the cost of fuel to pad their margins.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 months ago

Try to remember that everything you have in your life or purchase for daily use is conveniently close to your non-car lifestyle because of hydrocarbon powered transportation networks, which doesn't just eat the cost as a gesture of goodwill, the price of transportation is included in what you purchase.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I suppose the plan is to secure the availability for themselves while increasing gasoline prices in the rest of the world, but they’ll foremost be a nuisance to their closest trading partners.

From the article:

"The temporary export ban does not apply to the agreed volumes of supplies to the Eurasian Economic Union countries, Mongolia, Uzbekistan, Abkhazia and South Ossetia, RBC said."

So it looks like those are exempt.

I also don’t buy gasoline, so I really don’t give a shit. For all I care, gasoline prices should increase,

You may not buy gasoline, but you buy products and consume services fueled by lots of gasoline. However, I agree with you that we should be recognizing the total cost of gasoline, which includes its climate effects in its price to incentivize reducing its usage.

[–] Overzeetop@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

Russia is one of the largest exporter of gasoline.

At the risk of linking an un-cited web page, they look to be a distant 12th in gasoline.
https://www.indexmundi.com/energy/?product=gasoline&graph=exports&display=rank
The source is supposedly https://www.eia.gov/ but I can't find the original data there in any usable format.

Russia comes in a distant second for general refined petroleum (not just gasoline) according to https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/refined-petroleum-products-exports/country-comparison/

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I'd love to not buy gasoline! Someone buy me an electric car.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago

You don't understand even the most basic principles of economics.

I also don't buy gasoline, so I really don't give a shit. For all I care, gasoline prices should increase, because the world as a whole has bigger issues with not buying fossil fuels than it has with economy or Russian domestic bullshit from a dying gangster billionaire.

This may be the dumbest thing I'll read this month. I would try to explain why, but that would be an entirely pointless and exhaustive exercise. The short of it is that you do buy gasoline every fucking day and you love it.