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I think AI is neat.

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[–] Redacted@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You obviously have hate issues

Says the person who starts chucking out insults the second they get downvoted.

From what I gather, anyone that disagrees with you is a tech bro with issues, which is quite pathetic to the point that it barely warrants a response but here goes...

I think I understand your viewpoint. You like playing around with AI models and have bought into the hype so much that you've completely failed to consider their limitations.

People do understand how they work; it's clever mathematics. The tech is amazing and will no doubt bring numerous positive applications for humanity, but there's no need to go around making outlandish claims like they understand or reason in the same way living beings do.

You consider intelligence to be nothing more than parroting which is, quite frankly, dangerous thinking and says a lot about your reductionist worldview.

You may redefine the word "understanding" and attribute it to an algorithm if you wish, but myself and others are allowed to disagree. No rigorous evidence currently exists that we can replicate any aspect of consciousness using a neural network alone.

You say pessimistic, I say realistic.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Haha it's pure nonsense. Just do a little digging instead of doing the exact guesstimation I am talking about. You obviously don't understand the field

[–] Redacted@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Once again not offering any sort of valid retort, just claiming anyone that disagrees with you doesn't understand the field.

I suggest you take a cursory look at how to argue in good faith, learn some maths and maybe look into how neural networks are developed. Then study some neuroscience and how much we comprehend the brain and maybe then we can resume the discussion.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You attack my viewpoint, but misunderstood it. I corrected you. Now you tell me I am wrong with my viewpoint (I am not btw) and start going down the idiotic path of bad faith conversation, while strawman arguing your own bad faith accusation, only because you are butthurt that you didn't understand. Childish approach.

You don't understand, because no expert currently understands these things completely. It's pure nonsense defecation coming out of your mouth

[–] Redacted@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You don't really have one lol. You've read too many pop-sci articles from AI proponents and haven't understood any of the underlying tech.

All your retorts boil down to copying my arguments because you seem to be incapable of original thought. Therefore it's not surprising you believe neural networks are approaching sentience and consider imitation to be the same as intelligence.

You seem to think there's something mystical about neural networks but there is not, just layers of complexity that are difficult for humans to unpick.

You argue like a religious zealot or Trump supporter because at this point it seems you don't understand basic logic or how the scientific method works.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You are wrong, and I am the only person that cares enough to try to educate you, but your emotional defense mechanism fries your brain from completing a normal conversation, resorting to the lowest form of arguments available just to survive with your ego intact in a illusory bubble of mental acrobatics. It's extremely sad that you don't understand how the underlying tech works and that sense is projected in every aspect of your statements. I just suggest you actually look at the research and make a personal base of opinions that aren't entirely plucked from an orchard of mental health issues if you really want to have discussions about the field

[–] Redacted@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You've just copied my arguments yet again.

Seek help, your projections are concerning.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You have a condition that makes you mirror every point I make, it's very disturbing especially the ease at which you brush off the incredibly focused origin of the critique that could very well improve your life were you not an absolute tool about it

[–] Redacted@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu -1 points 8 months ago