Try reading “The Way We Never Were”. While capitalism isn’t the cause, it’s certainly a contributor in the whole idea of men not needing anyone, men being sole provider, separating men from the tribes that gave them that emotional or physical support…not just men but women too.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, I'll admit, in a 2 sentence blurb, the connection might not seem "all there" but yes. Yes, the toxic world that is based in capitalism, our current paradigm and the one we're comparing to LOTR, dividing and conquering people along arbitrary lines all the while we're scrambling to get as much money as possible in order to fulfill some 60 year old notion about what being a man or what being a woman means, yes that turns people toxic and we express ourselves in toxic manners because of it.

Identify a problem you see with modern men and I can probably boil that point down to how it's capitalism motivated.

Side note: certain places in LOTR resemble real world medieval feudalism, such as Gondor. You'll note how toxic men from Gondor are. The economic system that drives us influences our behavior.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My interpretation was always that distance to the enemy determines your pov. Shire was furthest, easy and laid back. Gondor is practically frontline, so some characters were more pragmatic and Machiavellian.

Rn I am speaking only about FOTR.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago

Fuck you I'm poor and angry

[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If capitalism is about competition, then the need to divide and display individual strength are characteristics reinforced by capitalism.