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Plastic producers have known for more than 30 years that recycling is not an economically or technically feasible plastic waste management solution. That has not stopped them from promoting it, according to a new report.

“The companies lied,” said Richard Wiles, president of fossil-fuel accountability advocacy group the Center for Climate Integrity (CCI), which published the report. “It’s time to hold them accountable for the damage they’ve caused.”

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

If reduce makes harder to reuse, repair or recycle, then reduce could be a false economy.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Reduction in this case is bolstering reuse, repair, and recycling. By having a lower consumption rate overall, you will, automatically, have fewer resources that need to be reused, repaired, or recycled.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm good with that. Done properly, the less usage should translate to lower prices. Though part of the price right here is not currently on the spreadsheet. The environmental cost of end of life is not part of the upfront cost, right now anyway....

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Sounds like we should just tow life outside of the environment. Worked for that boat.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No economy involved. Reducing means reducing the amount of plastic in circulation (theoretically).

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That I'm fine with. I'd like to go back to glass, wood and metal.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hemp based materials is goat because glass and metal will be more expensive to ship.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bottle/can locally. What would concern me about hemp is land use.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but hemp needs far fewer chemicals and it is biodegradable. Plus it needs far less land to produce fiber.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Less land to produce fiber compared to what? If it's vertically farmed, I'd be happy with it. Though I'd move as much farming as I can to vertical farming to free up land for nature.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, you are talking about paper and carboard. I thought you meant cotton fibre. As long as it can be recycled.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thread is made out of the material that is separated from the Hurd. Any seeds you get are 30% oil by volume, and they are high in protein. Basically the entire plant has built in uses, and I want it to become an everyday product. This is basically a full drop in replacement for corn only 100% usable.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Metal-plastic is good friction pair

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

True, but it doesn't count as reduce then.