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I need some relationship advice. I suggested 125% but my wife won't budge from 10%. Is this normal? How did it go when you had this conversation with your romantic partner?

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I honestly enjoy seeing people like this with batshit insane but logically consistent views. Makes things much more fun

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

This guy essentially founded modern "rationalism." He has millions of literal followers, not just the Twitter kind. His dumbass is the one that spawned the Effective Altruism cult that has become extremely popular with tech bros. Sam bankman-fried, Sam Altman, Elon musk all subscribe to this "philosophy." It's all batshit insane and incredibly stupid.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 30 points 8 months ago (3 children)
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Yup. Satire no longer exists, welcome to 2024.

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yes, he basically has a cult dedicated to his whims. He's pretty stupid

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Damn, I thought he was shitposting, that's sad.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

When your ego is large enough to fantasize that a malevolent AI will create a simulation of yourself to torture for eternity simply because you didn't spend all your money trying to bring it into being.

[–] Fawxhox@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As an autistic dude, I feel like I know that it's weird too say, but I also feel like it makes sense. Like it's hard to quantify x% better, but I'm sure there is a number, for me at least, where if someone is that much better and would date me, I'd do it. It's not romantic to say, but it's true. And I've been dumped for other people twice so the same must have been true for them.

It just feels like one of the thousands of unspoken rules you're not allowed to talk about out of politeness. But honestly I would like to know that number for my SO.

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you're curious about an alternative view, I suggest The Art of Loving by Erich Fromm. Relationships are about growing your own and the others natural abilities, something you do and not about trading something you have. The OP post is a materialistic view and a belief in inequality. YMMV.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's also the psycho who founded a movement which designed to let insane billionaires justify spending their money however they want, no matter the people they hurt now, as long as it's 'for the greater good' long term.

The OOP needs to kiss the business end of a wood chipper if you ask me

[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Interesting, I haven't heard his name. I do like Nick Bostrom though. I started reading about this Effective Altruism, on paper it sounds all very nice, but this OOP materialist nonsense bodes very bad for any ethical AI lol. It also seems to be focused on donating and solving everything with billionaire money instead of on governance. ~~Do you have a link to some good critique of this EA stuff?~~

EDIT: Never mind, found lots of it lol !sneerclub@awful.systems. These extremes growing out of longtermism and TESCREAL should be a laughing matter but apparently they are well funded gaining access. A good article summing this up.

I'm very much aligned with these sci-fi ideas except the first thing we should teach an AGI is to love (see my book recommendation). Which seems something OOP has little capability for. Extinction might not be the worst case scenario with these guys at the helm lol.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

sure. just codify the human experience of love, marriage, sex, relationships, family and their interpersonal connections and the entire population into a single integer in a way that the difference between 42 and 43, and 1 and 153, is meaningful to everyone regardless of race, culture, creed, ethnicity, language, class, location, age, upbringing, wants, needs, desires, hopes, dreams and in a way that remains meaningful for up to 8 decades as well as the first meeting of a relationship and encourages people to feel safe, confident and happy to leave a relationship based on a relative number to their assigned integer. It should keep you busy for a little while but I look forward to seeing what number you assign to, for eg a Liberian refugee in Sierra Leone or a Changar itinerant harvesting travelling village, or Prince Harry of England and when I see it I can say "ah, yes, an 81, of course."

[–] Fawxhox@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is a weird attempt to put me down?? Obviously this is a personal number, I have no idea why you think I'm implying there is one formulas that fits every person in the world other than you just wanted to fight.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

I didn't intend it to be personal, but you did say you see the appeal, so I was doing a bit on the concept. But not really dedicated to you. After all, we're all just usernames to each other at on here.