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Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. (insideevs.com)

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Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here.::The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because you can drop one of these and fuel hydrogen ice cars in the middle of nowhere. You can't do that with solar and superchargers , they require substations.

Sounds like all of you people live in the city. Figures how ignorant you all are, the USA is massive people don't just live in apartment blocks in walking distance of their jobs and stores.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So hydrogen just appears somewhere? There's no other infrastructure involved?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fuck are you talking about, these micro plants, use solar energy to pull it from the atmosphere. This isn't rocket science....

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What hydrogen in the atmosphere?

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

...you do know that water is in the air pretty much everywhere right? And that the H in H2O is... surprise hydrogen...

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago

There is very little water there, and it varies considerably by region. You have to condense it out of the air, which itself takes energy. Then you have to electrolyze it, which also takes a lot of energy. You also can't electrolyze straight water; you'll need a supply of salt.

Once you've worked out all that, why not just feed that power into a regular battery and use that to charge cars? It will be far, far more efficient. Or just build a substation and use the power on the grid.