And Hamas would definitely take the warnings Israel is giving and move military assets to a place they thought was going to be safe. It was clearly a trap.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And the Israelis just love bombing civilians. It is part of their plans for genocide.

I am somewhat hopeful we'll get war crime trials for Israelis at some point.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If the Israelis wanted all Palestinians dead, they will need to dramatically speed up the pace of bombing civilians. Around 55,000 people are born in Gaza every year right now. The reason why 10,000 kids have died in this so far is that about 50% of the civilian population is under 18. Hamas recruits at 16 years of age officially, and sometimes earlier unofficially.

If Israel loved bombing civilians so much, why did they wait to get attacked before the started dropping so many bombs again?

You're delusional if you think this has anything to do with what they "love" doing. Almost a thousand Israeli civilians were massacred, they want to stamp out Hamas in retaliation and they're not going to let Hamas get away simply because they're hiding behind human shields.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's the long-term plan to remove Palestinians from all the territories there. It has been about 70 years and they have already taken a majority of it. At this rate, with the accelerated stealing of the land and destruction of infrastructure, maybe in about 50 years or so, the Palestinians will have been eliminated and Israel can have all the land

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The borders of the Gaza strip have not changed since the Oslo accord of 1949, all Jewish settlers in that area were forcibly removed by Israel in 2005, and there has been no permanent Israeli presence in that territory since.

Gaza is not fighting for the west bank, they are not fighting for an invasion of their land by settlers... No Hamas is fighting because they're being paid to do so by Iran.

The west bank is a different issue entirely. Israel is absolutely invading there. It just doesn't have anything to do with Gaza at this point. They aren't run by the same government.

[–] machinin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Okay, so apparently Hamas is fighting for the liberation of the thousands and thousands of people who have been detained without any charges and held at the whim of the IDF. Many of those are children, which is another aspect of this genocide.

You seem to have a more nuanced view, thank you. What parts of the apartheid system should be given highest priority in terms of dismantlement?

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Just because you have some notion of what defines a child does not mean the rest of the world abides by that. Hamas will recruit kids as young as 14. Even in the US if someone under 18 commits a heinous crime, they are often tried as adults.