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MEP Charlie Weimers says his party has had to consider ‘other options’ in light of Orbán’s stance on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The mere specter of Viktor Orbán is causing ructions on the right wing of the European Parliament.

Leading Sweden Democrats lawmaker Charlie Weimers suggested in written comments to POLITICO’s EU Election Playbook on Friday that he could pull his MEPs out of the right-wing European Conservatives and Reformists (ECR) group if Orbán’s Fidesz MEPs join up.

Orbán himself has openly expressed a desire to join the ECR — dominated by Giorgia Meloni’s Brothers of Italy and Poland’s Law & Justice party. The former Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki has also said he’s open to bringing in Fidesz. Meloni and Orbán have developed close ties at the European Council, with the Italian prime minister increasingly seen as a bridge between Budapest and Brussels.

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[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In the last election they did really well and at the after party one of the spokespeople got drunk and repeatedly tried to sneak in the Swedish version of sieg heil when national television interviewed her.

They are basically neo-nazis that learned to put on a suit and pretend that they are human.

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

“Really well” = 2nd largest party in Sweden.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

lol wait what??? That sounds pretty wild

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Swedish neonazis has the expression "Hell Seger" that is basically sieg heil. The spokesperson was slurring and she kept saying that it was nice with a helg seger (weekend victory). A sentence that doesn't make sense grammatically the way she said it and it doesn't make sense contextually because it was Sunday night and all elections are always Sunday night. She put up her arms when she said it in a way that wasn't the salute but you could see her trying to figure out how close she could take it. It was the most obvious thing because she was drunk but they routinely have those kinds of problem.

One of the party leaders tried to beat up a guy with an iron pipe in broad daylight and he continues to be a high ranking member for almost a decade. The whole party is fucked up and they keep winning more votes.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Jesus, that’s pretty fucked :(

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

The list is so long though, it is impossible to give a good overview in a post. Like the spokesperson (not sure if that title is accurate, more of a public frontfigure) mentioned in the above post also made post of her listening to Kanye West, right after all the antisemitic stuff, while calling Anne Frank "hornyness personified" or something like that. She is still in the party, last I heard, they just moved her to a less public position. And that is just one person.

The party elite and their youtube channel often talks about things like there being a group of people in the public institutions with a explicit goal to annihilate the swedish nation by, among other things, the import of muslims. They have said that the means for which to rid sweden of this "totally not a conspiracy theory" is to, I kid you not, turn sweden into the same type of autocracy as they have in Hungary. That is their publically stated goals which they have defended for years.

I do not trust these nazis on anything they say. If there is anything true to article it would be that their long support for Orban does not look too good now that they try to be pro-NATO and he is the last person in their way.

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It’s been a horrific sight to see the whitewashing that the media has done for SD. It the 90s it wasn’t even on the map that they would be accepted by anyone.

But alas. Boomers wanting “ordning och reda” and people without critical thinking skills who once read a Facebook post about someone not born here doing something wrong, made it happen.

Incredible.

[–] TrendigOsthyvel@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ja nån jävla ordning får det fan ta å va! Jag har faktiskt gått livets hårda skola å jag vet massor om livet, så vad är deras ursäkter att inte bara åka ner till hamnen å ta ett hederligt jobb?

[–] WhyYesZoidberg@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Hahah du låter som farsans granne.