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Xfce 4.20 Aiming For Usable Wayland Support While Maintaining X11 Compatibility (www.phoronix.com)

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Note: Xface wiki doesn't explicitly mention version 4.20 comes with Wayland support.

https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap

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[–] walthervonstolzing@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

On https://wiki.xfce.org/releng/wayland_roadmap it says:

xfce4-panel and xfdesktop have been ported to Wayland assuming our compositor will be based on wlroots.

xfce4-panel + xfdesktop + labwc is all the 'xfce' I think I'd ever need; so the wayland port is more or less 'done', AFAIC.

(Thunar has been wayland native since the gtk3 port completed a long time ago.)

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

For me, xfwm is the defining feature. I have my own custom super-minimal window theme (old screenshot showing mpv looking like PiP, I made a newer version with the idea of rolling up windows such as when playing music). Also the tweaks for hiding the titlebar when maximized.

Though I'm also on nvidia (1050Ti) so I don't really even think about Wayland.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

For me, xfwm is the defining feature. I have my own custom super-minimal window theme

Xfce announced years ago to move to client side decorations.

[–] insomniac_lemon@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I know. They added some at one point and I installed an anti-CSD package, I'm also pretty sure they pulled back some of their plans because of backlash too.

If they go full CSD I would probably need to find something else and probably just concede+just use the slimmest window theme there is rather than something frameless even (from what I've seen, other window theme systems are not as modular as xfwm which allows simply deleting the sides/bottom files etc).

Someone could probably make this concept (frameless, minimal title bar, no title on maximized, no raise-on-focus, rolled-up windows, floating window buttons that are only on focused windows) into a simple window manager, probably not me any time soon though. And I'm not sure how easy that is on Wayland (I know options exist to make it easer--such as wlroots I think--though I don't know how it'd compare to making something for X).

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 9 months ago

Me too. I could use another Wayland compositor and be pretty happy. On my iMac, I have been running Metacity as a WM because xf4wm had some kind of memory leak. Most of the “apps”, including Thunar, already run on Wayland as well I believe.