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[–] grue@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Pro-tip: you don't have to defrost a windshield if you walk, bike, or take public transit instead.

[–] smoof@kbin.social 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I work over 2 hours away each way by bus or 20 minute drive. I'm gonna drive. Not everyone has the option.

[–] Thorry84@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I live about a 20 min drive from work, that's why I use my bicycle.

It's about 15km one way and takes me about 40-45 min. Normally the car takes 15-20 min, but in rush hour traffic it can easily be 30-40 min. So for my office commute the bike isn't even that much slower. And if there has been an accident or something like that, I could easily be stuck on traffic for over an hour. With my bike I get there in 45 min, no matter what. I love the fresh air, the exercise and the feeling of being outside.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

My E-bike allows me to cover the same distance in about half the time, and no sweating at the end of the trip

[–] Onlytanner@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, because those are definitely viable options for everyone. Sarcasm aside, I'm not saying that these aren't the ideal modes of transport, but they simply aren't viable options for a large portion of people (including me).

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

In my city, the school buses only pick up kids that live more than 1 mile from the school. I live in a pretty dense (albeit still single-family) neighborhood, so almost everybody who goes to my kid's school lives too close to ride the bus.

It's amazing how the majority of the parents are apparently willing to spend five or ten minutes clearing the frost off their car windshield only to drive half a mile and then wait another ten or fifteen minutes in line at the car drop-off, when my entire round trip by bike is maybe ten minutes total.

Frankly, the "large portion of people" in my anecdote are just flat-out doing it wrong, to both society's and their own detriment.

The number of people who do have alternatives are a lot higher than many of them are willing to admit.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

You can be investigated for neglect if you let your kids walk alone.

It happened in Maryland.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's (unfortunately) true, but I'm not sure what you're getting at? My comment was about how parents should bike their kids to school (or walk with them) instead of driving them.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

It doesn't really, but I'm sure there are parents who are driving to work anyway, and walking or biking the kids would take even more time than the

So I figured they'd just let the kids walk on their own because it's only a mile and it would save the parents some time. (Plus they don't have to go out in bad weather.) But then I remembered that even that isn't allowed anymore.

Then again, I'm old enough to have been a pedestrian latchkey kid and I'm pretty sure if I did that to my kids at the same age they'd be in the foster system.

[–] Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Yeah people will use bikes or public transit if it's a better option for them than driving. But decades of carmaker lobbying, terrible zoning laws and bad urban design makes driving the only available option for most Americans.
Cities who invest in good public transit and sensible urban design always see a huge decrease in car traffic.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was about to say. Imagine driving to work.

My wife takes the car, and I transit because she works closer but in a corner of the city, while I work in a highly transit centric part of the city. It only takes me like 35-40 mins to walk, bus, and walk. Plus my dog can come with and we get a nice little walk in for the morning!

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Imagine having to leave your house to go to work.

My commute consists of walking down the stairs into my office. Takes about a minute unless there's a cat, in which case I'll be stuck for a few minutes giving him pets and letting him know he is a good kitty.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Yea, she works in a vet clinic. Kinda hard to do remote.

But I wish I could be remote, but my corpo overlords require me to”in the office” 3 days a week. So I go in for an hour or two and head back home to continue working.