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We live in a post information scarcity society and we still haven't moved on from capitalism. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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Edit: Changed title to be more accurate.

Also here is the summary from Wikipedia on what Post-scarcity means:

Post-scarcity is a theoretical economic situation in which most goods can be produced in great abundance with minimal human labor needed, so that they become available to all very cheaply or even freely. Post-scarcity does not mean that scarcity has been eliminated for all goods and services but that all people can easily have their basic survival needs met along with some significant proportion of their desires for goods and services. Writers on the topic often emphasize that some commodities will remain scarce in a post-scarcity society.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Fascism is similarly unsustainable, if we fail and can't achieve Socialism from Capitalism then fascism will take its place, and will also collapse. Same with climate, if we fail to properly handle it we will almost certainly go extinct, but the door remains open for life in millenia.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Even Socialism seems transitory to me. Much better than Capitalism, but once labor can be more broadly automated, we need to think of something other than money quickly.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Communism is just that, same with Anarchism (though Anarcho-Communism skips Socialism). You're correct, but that is for after Socialism.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Shhhhh, im trying to lead them to that conclusion without the big scary C word.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Haha, I gotchu.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

As capitalism itself has demonstrated, people and money can operate just fine when others are doing the work.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hopefully earth finds harmony after humans.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Harmony with what?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Harmony without 150 species being driven to extinction every day by one organisms population.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Okay that’s “without”. In harmony, with what?

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you stupid? Without humans destroying the environment.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A person never knows when they’re stupid.

I think “stability” is the word you’re looking for here. Harmony is a beautiful word, and should only be used to refer to the thing itself.

[–] Nudding@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Harmony: the quality of forming a pleasing and consistent whole.

Works fine where it is. Pedantry is an ugly look.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Everything is unsustainable. So far, nothing has been observed to last forever.

Fascism tends to collapse a lot faster than capitalism though, because of its inherent drive to rework the world into something new. Fascism cannot abide non-fascism existing, and contains the implicit imperative to invade and impose fascism.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Just want to add this is not unique to fascism. It is an emergent property of all systems that seek to reshape the world.