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[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

From a non-US standpoint I'd have to ask you why university costs money to attend in the first place. Shouldn't you instead give students money to cover living expenses etc. so that they can focus on their studies? So that everyone who might be able to graduate gets a go at it, regardless of their socio-economic background?

Universal education isn't exactly a new, radical position, Luther was advocating for a broad education for everyone back in the 1500s.

[–] Disinfect056@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I wish nobidy had to work and everything was "free", but as they say everybody has to " eat". Profesors, personal, etc... Not to take in to account the equipment needed to run the clases (labs etc...).

Nothing is "free"

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nothing is “free”

Indeed not. Streets, for example, need building and maintenance... yet they are free to use. Why would you handle education any differently?

[–] Disinfect056@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why stop at education? Why not housing, or food, or cars, or vacation? Why work at all?

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why work? To fulfil your ambitions. To give to your fellow human beings.

It's really a funny thing: If you look at polls surrounding providing a universal basic income you see an overwhelming majority answer "I'd work about the same amount, maybe a bit less but not much" while the same majority also says "Most people would park themselves in front of the TV with a beer". The general attitude is "everyone is a lazy bum but me", see what capitalist realism has done to us. One of the worst innovations ever, conservatives really should rail against it given that it's new and harmful.

More into details: Education, housing, food, yes. Access to information and entertainment (internet), and healthcare. Cars, no, we should have proper public transport, vacation, depends: Do you want to spend money or visit balconia?

[–] Disinfect056@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hahahh so work so you feel good about yourself? Oh God....

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

Housing, food, and transportation should indeed be decommodified. Vacation is a luxury, and doesn't need to be free at point of service.

People work because they still need to. Do you get paid to clean your room? Even then, you'd still get paid, but certain things should not be extorted by profit.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Are you anti soup kitchen too lol

wait you probably hate the unhoused too

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah but from the perspective of a government paying for your citizens education reduces crime, increases revenue and helps your country stay on top from a technology point of view. It's a pretty safe investment that pays for itself. I graduated 5 years ago, university and college isnt free where i am but is subsidized (and also access to low interest gov't loans) I have already paid in taxes more than my education cost the government. If I work for another 20yrs that's easily a 4x on the initial investment.