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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is inherently the problem with (most) cyclists, and why motorists in general don't like them.

They want it both ways. They want to be a pedestrian when it suits them, when they want to blow stop signs, jump up onto the sidewalk, expect cars to stop for them at crosswalks, and weave through traffic at will. But they ALSO want to be a vehicle when it suits them, when they are sharing a road that doesn't have a bike lane, for example.

And they seem to think that the motorist should just KNOW when they are being one or the other.

It's frustrating and annoying. They are a vehicle. They are governed as a vehicle. Suck it up, cyclists.

[–] Polendri@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

I find it so tiresome hearing about how cyclists are supposedly more entitled than motorists (or the other way around, since cyclists say the same things about drivers).

Drivers routinely roll through stops, jockey for position, move erratically or dangerously, block crosswalks or bike lanes, distract themselves on their phones, get upset when mildly inconvenienced by having to underspeed behind a cyclist taking the lane for safety, etc.

  1. Being entitled and breaking the law to get places faster is universal; I think uou're just acclimated to drivers doing it.

  2. The infrastructure is so car-oriented and bike-hostile that following the law often disadvantages cyclists or puts them at risk. That doesn't justify, say, biking fast across a crosswalk, but sidewalk-riding on a 4-lane road without bike lanes? IMO it does.

  3. There's bias here in treating the worst cyclist behaviour as being something condoned by cyclists at large. Kind of like if someone said "drivers just want to drag race around town".

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, motorists don't like them because they are different. That's it. It's someone they can place their road rage on.

[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If that were true, you'd expect car drivers to feel the same way about, for example, motorcycles, rollerbladers, and longboarders... Yet people don't have the same feelings as they do with cyclists.

Also since when do car drivers have any problem whatsoever applying their road rage to other car drivers? Lol.

[–] limelight79@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Nah, drivers rarely go on the internet to rage about other drivers blowing stop signs, speeding, tailgating, running red lights, or other idiotic things. Cyclists bring out waaaay more emotions in people than other drivers. Just read any cycling thread...like this one.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

It goes the other way too, when a cyclist is considering stop sign as a yield then motorist complains that cyclist should behave the same way as cars.

When cyclist behave are riding in the middle of the road because it's safer for them then motorist complains that they are not supposed to be there.