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Apologies if this is the wrong place for this. A few subs opened up and were discussing the possibility of extending the blackouts. The majority wanted the blackout to end to keep the influx of content. That was to be expected.

There was a disturbing tone in some of the messages though. It was a form of cynicism essentially backing Reddit to do whatever it wanted to the devs, and that it was wrong to protest the rule changes as we should be okay with whatever Reddit wanted. It was almost like learned helplessness. I genuinely found it to be disturbing. Is anyone else noticing this in their communities/subs?

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[โ€“] towerful@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Probably because they are less conservative and more ... Contrarian?

[โ€“] FantasticFox@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I guess they just want to "pwn the libs" by being made to use the awful first party app and have all the adverts etc.

I think the decentralised nature of lemmy, kbin etc. is much more in line with the libertarian ideals that some of the right have though.

[โ€“] minimar@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you're realising here is right wing libertarianism isn't real, it's an excuse to allow people to do horrible things to eachother. They're still very happy to ban things they don't like.

[โ€“] FantasticFox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean it's also /r/conservative not /r/libertarian or whatever. So I wouldn't necessarily expect them to hold those libertarian values in any case.

[โ€“] minimar@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, but take a look in any thread and they're 24/7 jerking off about how they're freedom lovers or whatever.

[โ€“] FantasticFox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's not really a coherent worldview. I don't entirely agree with libertarianism but at least it's much more coherent. They aren't like all for freedom, but then against gay rights or whatever.

[โ€“] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They view protesters against suthoritarian moves as whiny liberals, so they will always take the opposite position - and like it.

They see "take charge" and "fuck you" activities as real turn one, they don't even stop to assess what is happening. They get raging boners over it.

[โ€“] GhostedIC@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's kinda true. Then again, consider the history of any right-leaning sub or sub that makes fun of the left: Admins force unwanted mods into their subs. New accounts make "threatening" posts faster than mods can stomp them out, and get screenshots to other subs as proof the whole sub is terrible. T_D banned fir a post arguably advocating for violence against police... a few weeks before BLM kicked off, and every left sub was loaded with advocations for violence towards cops. Cringeanarchy got flooded with CP posts from AgainstHateSubs alt accounts and promptly shut down. (Cite: https://youtu.be/yUV9TyfYaEQ ) All this was, overtly or covertly, supported by reddit's admins.

Now, if you're still a r/conservative mod on Reddit after ALL THAT... you're controlled opposition installed by reddit admins, or you want to a reddit mod so bad, you'll compromise your values for it.

[โ€“] minimar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Uh, what? How did admins 'overtly or covertly' support false flag attacks?

[โ€“] GhostedIC@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

AHS was definitely doing this, and there were several examples of admins being in close communication with AHS leaders, including some leaked chat logs (which arent totally verifiable but are pretty consistent). If nothing else, the fact that reddit admins had their eyes on "bad" posts in right-leaning subs faster than mods could, and yet also would ignore similar posts in lefty or "neutral" subs like r/politics that don't allow any remotely right wing opinions, was very observable to anybody in an effected sub.

[โ€“] minimar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Citation needed, sorry.