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With the controversy with the border in Texas. Why has no once asked what is driving so many to the boarder? (lemmy.world)
submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Fredselfish@lemmy.world to c/general@lemmy.world
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I was eating at a restaurant and they had Faux news on (I know it sucks and hate that we have to see that garbage)

They were discussing the border and they claim that over 1.5 million people are trying to cross into the US from 150 plus other countries. Knowing how they can be so full of shit hard to imagine that being true.

But it did get me wondering there is a lot of people trying to cross and the ariel shots I seen If true we are talking about thousands trying to flee into the states.

Instead of trying to stop them from crossing why are we not addressing the cause? How come we aren't maybe trying to see if we can solve the problem that causing them from running away from their homes?

I am sure America is probably responsible for some of that turmoil so why we not discussing that and fixing our mess instead of trying pass bills closing our boarders?

Also on a side note sick of all the fucking mega fucks and racist rednecks throwing fits about the boarder. Unless your native American we all fucking immigrants. Especially all the caucuses.

Just why are we allowing this to cause us to almost on the brink of a civil war. Bad enough that we locking these people in cages. That something the Biden administration should have ended on day one of his administration.

So what could we be doing to fix this problem?

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[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I am sure America is probably responsible for some of that turmoil so why we not discussing that and fixing our mess

Because America can do no wrong on its foreign policy. We are purely a force for good, opinions to the contrary merely Communist propaganda. Thus, whatever the cause is, it's not America's problem or responsibility to fix.

Except, obviously, not really.

Just why are we allowing this to cause us to almost on the brink of a civil war.

Ooof...it's not just this lol. Right-wing political elites strongly believe in personal freedom and states' rights. Right-wing regular folks believe strong in personal freedom. For them, American personal freedom manifests as a proliferation of guns and ammo, flags on lawns, and everybody believing in the country as the city upon a hill. More importantly, it certainly does not manifest as self-reflection, following the teachings of Jesus Christ, nor running into reality at any point. Americans are right, moral, and their actions just because they're American. That's just the way it is for them.

So, the border crisis is an issue they feel strongly about and they're being denied the resources to handle in the way they see fit. Personal freedom and states' rights are being trounced all because liberal president wants to...what...claim to protect children from drowning while letting criminals (and there are so many criminals according to them with no evidence) in to ravage the country?

This is a deep problem.

In my opinion, they're Boomer selfishness taken to its logical conclusion in a society. It's fine if a few people are exceedingly selfish and want everything for themselves. It's a problem when tens of millions want it all, too.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I strongly disagree that right-wing people believe more strongly in personal freedoms and states rights. In fact, on most issues it is the opposite.

Even the one issue you make note of is more complicated than it seems at first glance. Is the right to bear arms about personal rights or is it about the right of privileged groups (white, male, property owners) to kill anyone who is perceived as a threat? I would posit it’s more about the latter.

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 6 points 10 months ago

I strongly disagree that right-wing people believe more strongly in personal freedoms and states rights.

I agree. But they think of it in those terms.

[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Right-wing political elites strongly believe in personal freedom and states’ rights. Right-wing regular folks believe strong in personal freedom.

Curiously, this is demonstrably false.

At this point virtually every time one sees somebody call on the government to step in and interfere in something, it's a right-winger.

As with so many things, they actually are exactly what they claim to oppose - fragile babies who constantly cry for mommy and daddy government to protect them