The larger the state, the more internal resistance there will be. Not everyone in Texas or Florida will want to secede, and everybody can buy a gun. It's one thing to gather some pride boys and meal team six larpers in the town square and march around for a bit, but it's an entirely other thing to defend territory when you're outnumbered, outgunned, and half the population is against you.

Oklahoma and Arkansas might be up for it, but there's no way secessionists hold Miami or Austin.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying Texas is big enough that they'd Yo Dawg their civil war?

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is most ridiculous way to describe society dissolving into each street fighting those next to it.

It's perfect.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Civil wars over civil wars? USA should just move to middle east lmao

[–] Osa-Eris-Xero512@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

2 issues there: the food and fuel for those cities move through the traitor parts of the state. Supply lines will be a major issue in the early weeks of any major event. In addition to that, those blue cities aren't homogeneous just like their states aren't, so there will be further subdivision past the metro line.

[–] Cannibal_MoshpitV3@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Counter point: how will they pay for an army, the power grid, and supplies? Not to mention the fact that the local ar-15 touting, walmart-scooter-surfer isnt equipped to protect its supply lines from air superiority, let alone a global navy, when blockaded?

They will face the same issues that destroyed them 160 years ago, but 1000x the difficulty

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

That works both ways, though, and the US Military is going to have significant logistics advantages. Coastal cities can resupply from boats, and Texas doesn't have anti-aircraft defenses along the northern and western borders. In the event of a declared armed insurrection, it won't last long enough for milk to go bad in the fridge.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago

Not just that, but the economic powerhouses are almost exclusively cities run by Democrats. Even deep red states have Democrats as mayors of their big cities. Texas would have a hard time funding a war if they were trying to do it on the backs of porcupines.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Nah, as someone who lives in Oklahoma, about half the younger generation has a functioning nervous system that would prevent that from happening. If we seriously tried to go any more red, there would be violence in the streets.

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And you have a hitbox that is quite a bit larger than normal, and various health style related illnesses dependent on the free flow of medicine