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Who would've thought? This isn’t going to fly with the EU.

Article 5.3 of the Digital Markets Act (DMA): "The gatekeeper shall not prevent business users from offering the same products or services to end users through third-party online intermediation services or through their own direct online sales channel at prices or conditions that are different from those offered through the online intermediation services of the gatekeeper."

Friendly reminder that you can sideload apps without jailbreaking or paying for a dev account using TrollStore, which utilises core trust bugs to bypass/spoof some app validation keys, on a iPhone XR or newer on iOS 14.0 up to 16.6.1. (ANY version for iPhone X and older)

Install guide: Trollstore

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[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because of course they are! There goes my plan to try an iPhone when side loading becomes available.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’ll only be available in the EU.

Why do you want an iPhone?

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I know Apple hate party in here but as a person with a bunch of self built PCs couple Linux boxes…

iPhones are great. No messing around, way more private than stock Google, and they work for… well, I’m on five years with mine. Still gets updates too!

[–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you have the money for an iPhone and consider privacy as important, why not go with a Pixel/GrapheneOS or another phone with Lineage/Divest?

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Someone downvoted you INSTANTLY, that’s fucked up.

I choose iOS because it requires zero messing about. I use like no apps on my phone and want it to just be fast forever with no work. I don’t want to have to think about it at all.

[–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Apple fanboys coming in :) I get your point, iOS is still easier to set up than stock android due to all of the restrictions that it has (I'm a Android main with an iPhone for testing). I am the opposite, I like tweaking everything that I can and can not, main reason why I jailbroke my iPhone, but I do have time to do that while some just want a working system out of the box.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am the opposite. I want a phone that’s locked down and super secure and requires no fiddling.

Computer? I want to make it mine.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here is my problem with a nonstandard operating system on a phone.

A rely on it to run my very small business. I don’t want to get blocked by an app I rely on or suddenly have it stop working due to running an unofficial operating system.

So it’s either stock Android or stock iOS. iOS I’d say is more private than Android, so I stick with them.

[–] jvrava9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't see how google would block something unless you are rooted. Custom os'es pass all the security checks besides the os integrity one that doesn't affect your daily use.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

No they don't, at least not necessarily. I had the xiaomi.eu ROM on my old phone and it broke SafetyN*t checks, and as a consequence at the very least one of my banking apps refused to work (this one I actually need to verify credit card charges in some cases, it's not just a nice to have unfortunately).

I probably would have been better off rooting it since then you can bypass it I think, but I didn't want to have to reapply root after every update.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

I’m not worried about Google blocking it but rather the app I use to say, “hey something weird is going on with this phone better block/ban that account.

I know the risk is minimal, but it’s not could be a huge disruption to my income, so it’s just not worth it.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I used to be in the same boat but then apple kept being apple. I’ll get a pixel + lineage after my phone breaks.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 10 months ago

I’ll.. iPhone. I plug into my PCs, incremental image backup. I phone break? New phone is now old phone. I lose phone? Still same phone, but new device.

Unga bunga. Ez phone no think. Don’t care. Phone do bad? Same phone but new. No fuckin.

[–] uis@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Google phones have much better customizability and as result have better privacy than glass paperweight you mentioned.

I’m on five years with mine. Still gets updates too!

Nexus 6 still gets updates 10 years later.

Still they are not as good as Linux-first phones like PPP.

[–] kayazere@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago

You need to be running a custom rom to get better privacy than iOS. Stock android is full of Google spyware.

[–] SeekPie@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] uis@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

PinePhone Pro. The one on Rockchip instead of Allwinner.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah okay. Still don’t wanna deal with that shit.

Quick edit: does that phone perform like my iPhone?

no

[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

They have great build quality and software, it's a shame Apple has some terrible policies about their ecosystem and repairabilty of their devices, wasting the hard work of so many if their brilliant engineers by being greedy.