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[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Intel dropped the ball completely, and it will take years to catch up, if they ever do again. Could be a very long time.

If you believe they will become market leader again, buy stocks now. They are dirt cheap and could double or triple the money in maybe 3 to 5 years if they somehow come back from this.

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's weird how intel 'dropping the ball' still resulted in them just barely beating out AMD or hardly falling behind.

Part of me truly believes intel purposefully held back their product line so they could milk it for as long as possible; that they're just putting out enough to stay competitive with AMD but nothing more.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But they are not conpetetive with amd at all anymore. I don't think there is any reason to buy Intel.

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For mid range desktop CPUs (around $300) it's very even between AMD and Intel. When I was upgrading a few months ago I was deciding between i5 13600K and Ryzen 7 7700X which are similarly priced. Intel has more cores and better multithreaded performance, while AMD draws less power and has better single thread performance.

Going up to $400 it looks like Intel has no similarly priced competitor to Ryzen 9 7900X.

At $550 it looks like the situation has turned around, and i9-13900K has better power usage and single thread performance, while Ryzen 9 7950X wins on multi threaded performance.

In addition, the AM5 platform still has a bit of problems. Supposedly the long boot times have been improved with newer BIOS for my motherboard, but I'm a little bit afraid to update since other users have reported they got instabilities and at least my computer is rock solid now.

[–] jaaval@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

13700k seems to be similarly priced now compared to 7900x.

AMD slashed prices due to poor sales of zen4, 7700x used to be more aligned to 13700k pricing than 13600k. Before that Intel was actually usually the better choice between the two.

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That has me worried. Intel was what kept AMD honest. With AMD in the lead, there will be no real alternative to AMD ~~if~~ when AMD turns evil, since Intel does not take security seriously (the Intel Management Engine is insecure by design).