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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Motorists are at least expected to know the rules of the road, cyclists openly oppose any sort of education and even act offended at the idea that they too should know the rules of the road they're on. As a pedestrian in Toronto, cyclists are my biggest danger, not motorists.

I think this is the most important part that you are ignoring here.

Certainly, cyclists aren't as deadly as a motor vehicle. However, cyclists who don't respect the rules are still very much dangerous.

As the other person said, as a pedestrian I too have been a victim of being hit by cyclists several times because they blew a red light. Several. Times. And each time I lay on the ground while the cyclist yelled and insulted me and ran away.

This has never happened to me with a motorist because the vast motorist respect rules and signage on the road and they understand the consequences.

I, myself, as a cyclist have been a victim of several other cyclists on the road, and in reserved bike lanes, who are not careful or respectful of other cyclists. I've been pushed over and ran into by other cyclists.

Attitudes and respect of the rules of the road need to change among cyclists.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

However, cyclists who don’t respect the rules are still very much dangerous.

I do agree! I don't want cyclists to ignore rules or ride like maniacs, but I also don't want cyclists to be targeted for doing things that shouldn't even be against the law.

I too have been a victim of being hit by cyclists several times because they blew a red light.

They were flat out breaking the law and riding dangerously, so I'm sorry that happened to you. That's NOT what an Idaho Stop seeks to remedy.

This has never happened to me with a motorist because the vast motorist respect rules and signage on the road and they understand the consequences.

Statistically, it really is cars and trucks that are killing people (or even severely injuring them), and other accidents not involving motor vehicles are really quite rare.

Not to discount your experience, because it is important to acknowledge that cyclist on pedestrian accidents still do happen, but they are **very ** rare.

Attitudes and respect of the rules of the road need to change among cyclists.

Agreed.

I think that everyone should be riding respectfully, and while we can't change asshole behaviour, we can certainly do our best to not punish good cyclists.