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[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

If there was a law punishing people for not putting shopping carts back, I would deliberately break it and sue whatever stupid fucking government passed such a thing under the grounds listed in the post.

A law like that would be a violation of our rights. You can't just use government to force people to do whatever you want. We have rights.

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A law like that would be a violation of our rights

We have a right to not clean up after ourselves? Tell me more

The fact is you're borrowing a cart from it's owner, probably a store. If the store requires you to put it back and you don't the they would be within their rights to sue you over it. The only reason they don't is because their damages would be massively less valuable than their legal fees and the time it would take to present a lawsuit.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You really do. Governments can't arbitrarily make you do whatever they want through laws; they have to have good reasons for it that are acceptable by the people, and no one thinks it's acceptable for governments to harm their own citizens over an act the OP emphatically tells us harms no one.

An act that really doesn't mean anything more than a minor inconvenience and annoyance for everyone else.

And you want to harm people over it.

They're not the ones who are disgusting. You are.

[–] enitoni@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

Imagine if you were able to lay down an argument without a strawman and ad hominem fallacy.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same logic can apply to throwing your trash around. Which does get fined.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 10 months ago

I am pretty surprised no one has sued to get those laws overturned on those grounds.

Laws like that are just dog whistles to enable discrimination, just as loitering laws are.

[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 1 points 10 months ago

Pretty sure it could be considered fly tipping.