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[–] lung@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I'm a digital ~anarchist. All this regulation doesn't help, it just makes the Internet more ridiculous, and raises the barriers to entry - fuck em. Rather than regulating some sane browser features, we left it to every site to implement a cookies popup, and they are unique enough that they aren't easily filtered. So now every site has cringe popups that nobody reads or understands, thanks regulators!! Really solved that shit. I don't trust these assholes, it's all gonna get lobbied weird and big money pretty much always wins

Real open source is the answer. Common goods for common people, not led by capitalism, but led by shared infrastructure needs that benefit all. Protect the rights to anonymity/privacy online, instead of helping big tech deanonymize everyone. Uphold the values of the constitution of the USA, but in the digital space. And otherwise fuck off, govt

[–] mr_strange@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 9 months ago

So now every site has cringe popups that nobody reads or understands, thanks regulators!!

It's not the law that mandates the awful UI of those popups... it's Google. I'm an adwords publisher, on my blog and a couple of (formerly!) popular web-apps. My sites were all compliant with the legislation, but not with Google's policy for adwords publishers. Their algorithm sent me an e-mail threatening to cut off my income unless I implemented one of their "approved" cookie scripts. As any fool knows, it's simply not possible to contact a real human at Google, so I was forced to do as they wished. So now all my sites have pointless, annoying cookie popups.

Everyone hates those popups, but don't blame the legislation - blame Google for forcing the whole Internet into malicious compliance.

[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 30 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Uphold the values of the constitution of the USA, but in the digital space.

And fuck the rest of the world?

And otherwise fuck off, govt

Anarchist nonsense. Zero government = total chaos. The strong eats the weak. Like now, but worse.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There's a period. It reads "in all other matters, government fuck off".

Which is consistent with the poster declaring their anarchism.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

And even then anarchism is a form of government. Not anti-governance. Though in Western Nations we aren't taught politics, philosophy, etc. We are only taught propaganda.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You're getting downvoted because Lemmy. But you're absolutely right. Laissez-faire doesn't work.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Anarchism, The actual anarchism. Has nothing to do with laissez-faire. Anarcho-capitalists are oxymorons. Always figuratively, and often even literally. They're capitalist, not anarchists. They just believe that their capital should give them them power over you. But not vice versa.

Anarchists and actual libertarians are not against governance. They just think it should be as flat and local as possible. That it shouldn't be large hierarchical monolithic structures that people have a hard time understanding or lobbying. Structures that also have a hard time understanding individuals and serving them.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you think laissez-faire is a just hierarchy I have some carbon offsets to sell you.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago

Nothing laissez-faire about regulatory capture...

[–] auzas_1337@lemmy.zip 8 points 9 months ago

Not sure if OP meant "zero-government" because that's not what anarchism as a political theory and movement is about.

[–] HidingCat@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

This is why I don't like the Fediverse as much. Can you believe that loon got so many upvotes? Describes the average mentality around these parts, what a turn off.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I kinda don’t even think these conversations should happen until internet access is seen as a guaranteed right- through govt regulation or whatever. Otherwise, I feel like these takes are putting the cart before the horse - so to speak.

PS - I know I am replying to you but i my comments are geared towards OP

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.social -3 points 9 months ago

And fuck the rest of the world?

Where do you think every website in the entire world is hosted? It's America, obviously. We're the only country with a Constitution after all!

[–] GoldenDoge@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Since you are a “digital anarchist” I was wondering what your opinion was on the website “4chan.org”?

[–] lung@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

My opinion is that it's super legit, basically the only lasting icon of creativity and freedom of speech. Feels like what the whole internet used to be like, during the golden age before everything was captured by corps that fear brand damage and legal repercussions. People still repost 4chan content to all other media obsessively. Anyway 4chan is where it belongs, in the background. If it was more popular it would get totaled

Im not the anarchist but 4chan is dope. I don't spend as much time on there as here, but im glad it exists