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[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Like, you know, some people fucking can’t. [..] ableist and exclusionary assumptions [..]

And i quote myself: "I’m not saying that everyone can do that and certainly not on every trip, [..]".

I guarantee you consume significantly more oil than I ever could.

First you judge me for making assumptions and projections, then you make assumptions about me. I work from home. I don't have a drivers license and neither does my girlfriend. I don't go on vacations, I rather stay at home. I've only ever boarded a plane three times, all of them work related. I don't even order stuff online, expect for my girlfriend. And just for good measure, I'm vegan too! For the most part, I could only reduce my CO2 further by dying.

But enough of the dick measuring contest. I don't care for you personally, we're talking about the average person here. It just was funny to address you personally to throw back your needlessly added "head in your ass" insult.

And you know what, if you disappeared tomorrow and didn’t even use any of that oil - that still wouldn’t solve a fucking thing (in terms of oil production that is, otherwise if that happened it’d definitely be a more pleasant world lmfao).

Personal insult, that's always the sign of someone being right! Like, your post is littered with that stuff. Maybe take a few deep breaths or something.

[the fucking rest of your post]

You keep on blaming the companies here and I mean, that's not wrong. They are destroying the world with no regard for anything but wealth. But let me introduce to a concept so advanced, it's taught in 5th grade or something: Supply and demand. Shell destroys the environment to by extracting and selling oil. If no one buys oil, they stop. It's not profitable anymore. "But nuh-uh" I hear you say, "other companies use more oil than we do!". And I'm sure they do it for funsies too! It's not like, e.g. logistic companies use that shit to deliver stuff to you or anything. Once again, something we could reduce by ordering less as a whole. There is not a single company that could keep on doing their thing if its customer base would crumble away. "But it's impossible to be perfect" and therefore not worth trying, eh? Just keep on shaking your fist at clouds, old man.

If the demand for ecological solutions would grow, companies would become more ecological simply because that's where the money is. Companies and even whole industries that used to be big die all the time, often supplemented by some "Millennials killed X!" articles. They are not some form of omnipotent force, if enough individuals decide against supporting them, they die. It's just that not enough people care and you actively tell them to not care. Even if you're right and individual actions do mostly nothing, once enough individuals actively try to fix the problem some are bound to be CEOs, shareholders, politicians and lobbyists. We just need to hit critical mass for people that care.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
And you know what, if you disappeared tomorrow and didn’t even use any of that oil - that still wouldn’t solve a fucking thing (in terms of oil production that is, otherwise if that happened it’d definitely be a more pleasant world lmfao).

Personal insult, that’s always the sign of someone being right! Like, your post is littered with that stuff. Maybe take a few deep breaths or something.

it's not a personal insult, it's a thought experiment.

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

it’s taught in 5th grade or something: Supply and demand

besides being grossly condescending, your understanding of this price discovery theory is, itself, elementary.