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I mean I am going to play devils advocate but I wonder if they also include stuff like how much carbon emission does your online and non-local shopping habits are causing indirectly? Or your meat consumption? Or your airplane travels? Fuck big companies yes but also we have to change our consumerist mentality as humanity too.
Your argument boils down to suffer more because someone else is doing proportionately more damage to the point where your personal contribution is entirely negligible and we don't know how to fix that.
still negligible if all the most consumerist countries populations are combined?
Can't buy what isn't sold. The bulk of society don't have the financial capacity to change their purchasing habits, they're already struggling for survival.
middle to upper class? I mean sure a handful of individuals have %50 percent of the whole wealth but it is not a handful of individuals who are consuming that amount of meat and using amazon (or the likes) daily to get ten useless junks shipped all the way from china every month. can't sell what is not being bought.
Lmao, you think the bulk of human society is middle to upper class? No wonder your perspective is warped. You'd ignore those who can't just because some can.
Where did I say that the bulk of human society is middle to upper class? If you are poor enough that you can't eat meat, use airplanes, or use amazon to get junk shipped across the world you obviously don't contribute to over consumerism. The fact remains however that some hundred million to billion people are wealthy enough to contribute to over consumerism and they do. Without these people's spending habits these companies wouldn't be able to grow so much. Our consumption habits are the sugar that feeds the cancer. Stop feeding the cancer.
Exactly, yet you would sit here and preach to the lesser influence and to those under the boot rather than the producers. Fix your priorities and stop attacking those trying to survive rather than those exploiting even the people you say are "wealthy enough to do better".
I think you now get my point
Always did, but you still don't get mine because I wasn't the one with the deficiency in understanding.
and yet...
Yeah, and yet the deficiency remains.
don't worry
Why would I be worried about your obvious lack of capacity? Ain't my problem.
but you are fun
Of course I am, it's easy to entertain idiots.
self entertainment is a skill
You'd know.
clearly
Most of the stuff most people buy on Amazon and the like is definitely optional.