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I want to talk about this because of a conversation I had with a colleague on a lunch break a few days ago. I am a doctor, and I was talking to him about how angry I was (and still am) about the fact that the COVID vaccines, when they were first invented, were not made public, but instead were patented and sold. This basic fact made millions of people around the world suffer. I was rambling about how scientific information should always be free. How we should be able to use the internet as the greatest library our ancestors could have only dreamt of, instead of putting information behind paywalls. Even back in med school I was an avid user of sci-hub and I wasn’t ashamed of it one bit. I still use sci-hub to keep up with new researches so I can treat/inform my patients better. And I hate how some of my colleagues think that I am stealing others’ work.

Anyways, so I was rambling on and on. I sometimes do that. And my friend said something so strange and unrelated (in my eyes) to the conversation. He said “Look at you, defending open access to medical information for everyone, yet you only use Apple products.” I was like, “What? What do you mean?” He explained, “Man, all the things you use are made by Apple. Your laptop, tablet, phone, watch, earbuds or whatever, made by the company that is one of the main adversaries when it comes to right-to-repair and open source software.” So you need to see here, I’m not a tech guy. It’s just not my field. My job only requires me to read textbooks and keep up with new researches in my field, which any device can do. So I was like, “I… I don’t think I follow.” So he briefly explained what open-source software is, and how it’s related to my idea of free and open access to information for everyone, but this time it’s not in our field but programmers’. And when I almost reflexively said “Well we’re not programmers” he said “I mean, when it comes to software, it’s the programmers’ and developers’ thing. But free and open source is an idea. It applies to everything. And I think you’re supporting a company that opposes your views by buying their products.”

We didn’t have much time left so that was the end of that conversation. And I have been thinking about it since. When buying tech products I mainly care about if they are integrated with each other or not. Like if I turn on Do not Disturb on my watch, I want my phone, tablet and laptop to go quiet as well. Or I like being able to answer a phone call on my laptop. And I love the aesthetics of Apple products, at least more than what other companies have to offer.

Every evening since that conversation I’ve been looking up stuff related to open source software. Linux, distros, the philosophy behind it all, Linus Torvalds, Steve Wozniak, Arch, "read the wiki", terminal, GUI, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA my brain is filled with so many things at this point that I don’t understand anything at all.

So, TLDR; I’d love to hear your opinions about Apple. Most people (myself included) buy Apple devices because of the ecosystem, the design, privacy (?), consistent updates (especially on mobile), or for you might say, a lack of knowledge in the field of tech. Do you support Apple or are you against them, or are you indifferent? Do you think people who are not in the tech field as well should look into and use open source software? Leave your thoughts below! ^^

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[–] Terryble@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm a software engineer who uses a lot of open source software and I use Apple devices whenever possible. Electronic devices cost a lot of money, so I want my money to count. With that said, every Apple device I've owned has lasted me for a very long time and are still working today; The longest one being a 2012 Macbook Air which is still alive and kicking today after 2 battery replacements.

Every iPhone I've ever owned have received major iOS updates for 5-6 years. Meanwhile, every Android flagship phone (which costs similarly to the latest and greatest iPhones) I've owned have stopped getting major Android updates after 2-3 years. People criticize Apple for planned obsolescence, but other brands have it worse.

Even if you do listen to your friend's advice and decide to go for another brand, which one actually advocates for the ideals your friend has shared with you? The direct alternatives to Apple products aren't better in any philosophical way. The ones that do either offer a completely difference experience or an inferior product.

Don't feel bad about what your friend is saying. He doesn't pay for your stuff.

[–] DJDarren@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

I have four Macs. The newest of them is from 2015. All of them are still trucking.

There's a 2011 mini that I use for giving Keynote presentations at work, and the 2011 MacBook Pro that I retired last year that my wife uses if she needs to visit a desktop website and can't be bothered to go upstairs to her big PC. I have a 2014 mini that I use for all my other work stuff, on which I'm typing this comment. And my 2015 15" MBP that I bought last year for the grand total of £420.

Of these, the '11s are beginning to groan a bit, but only really because they've both been patched to Monterey. They're 12 year old computers, running last year's OS almost perfectly.

That may be possible on X86/64 hardware, but in my experience, Windows machines just don't have the same build quality. Now, that said, I've never used a Windows laptop that's actually comparable to a Mac, in as much as the most expensive Windows machine I've owned cost me £650; around half of what my 2011 MBP was originally worth (though I only paid £1000 for it after some pretty hefty staff discounts for the company I was working for at the time). Perhaps a £1300 Win machine is much better built.

Point is, like you, I want my money to go as far as possible. That 11 MBP cost me £90 a year for the time I used it. If the 2015 lasts me 5 years, it'll give me the same value, by which time I might be able to pick up an M1 MBP for a similar price. I just don't think I could ge the same value from a Windows machine, and even if I could, it would be running Windows.

[–] flanksteakninja@partizle.com 1 points 1 year ago

The direct alternatives to Apple products aren’t better in any philosophical way.

I suppose that depends on whether you consider things like Linux and GrapheneOS direct alternatives.