No, the US is the foreign power who's culture has the biggest influence on people in Canada, there's no tangible reason to believe that big US tech companies are feeding your data to the US government and taking orders on how to influence it's people. Tech companies in the US have shown time and time again that they have no interest in working with the US government (a problem of itself) and every piece of user data handed over has been through a court order.

TikTok has failed numerous global security audits and there's reason to believe that they're tied directly to the Chinese government and being used by the Chinese government to influence foreign citizens via misinformation and the removal of "anti-Chinese" material.

Yeah yeah, both are bad, sure, but one is worse and it's direct Chinese government influence. Anyone that says otherwise is a troll or needs to seriously practice some basic critical thinking skills.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

US is the foreign power whose culture, money, media companies, and oligarchs have the biggest influence on Canada. This is the country that constantly meddles in Canadian politics. Meanwhile, we know perfectly well after Snowden leaks that US companies very much do work with US government, and one has to be an utter ignoramus to claim otherwise.

Meanwhile, numerous audits have shown that the type of data TikTok collects is exactly the same as any other major social media platform. Stop spreading misinformation here.

Thinking that there is any equivalence between the amount of influence US and China have on Canada is sheer idiocy, and your woefully misinformed comment inadvertently highlights the problem. You should take your own advice and practice some critical thinking skill as not to make a 🤡 of yourself in public in the future.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile, we know perfectly well after Snowden leaks that US companies very much do work with US government, and one has to be an utter ignoramus to claim otherwise.

As I previously said, this was data they were ordered to hand over, which is obviously problematic, but since then E2EE has been implemented all over big tech while they've fought against backdoor access. While this is obviously self-serving and only because of global backlash, it proves that these tech companies have no interest in working for the US government. Your statements are surface level depth and show a real lack of understanding on this subject.

Meanwhile, numerous audits have shown that the type of data TikTok collects is exactly the same as any other major social media platform. Stop spreading misinformation here.

Stop sliding the conversation. I never said they collected more data, I said they've failed security audits and there is reason to believe they are willingly handing it over the Chinese government and taking direction from the Chinese government.

Thinking that there is any equivalence between the amount of influence US and China have on Canada is sheer idiocy, and your woefully misinformed comment inadvertently highlights the problem.

Lol again, as I said, you're mistaking culture influence for foreign government influence.

You're continuously sliding the conversation into trying to make it sound like I feel like US tech has no issues while being critical of Chinese tech. I am critical of both, however I'm not an "utter ignoramus" lmao and I can recognize how fucking stupid of a statement "I prefer China to have my data" is.

I'm gunna go with Chinese propaganda troll for you!

Edit: Hahaha called it. Check out this dude's posts, it's all Chinese and anti-west propaganda.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I previously said, this was data they were ordered to hand over, which is obviously problematic, but since then E2EE has been implemented all over big tech while they’ve fought against backdoor access. While this is obviously self-serving and only because of global backlash, it proves that these tech companies have no interest in working for the US government. Your statements are surface level depth and show a real lack of understanding on this subject.

The only one who's showing genuine lack of understanding on this subject is the one who thinks that all of this magically stopped. The wiretapping that Snowden reported on was also illegal at the time, and thinking that it stopped takes an incredible amount of naivete.

Stop sliding the conversation. I never said they collected more data, I said they’ve failed security audits and there is reason to believe they are willingly handing it over the Chinese government and taking direction from the Chinese government.

Nobody is sidelining the conversation, I'm just pointing out that TikTok doesn't actually do anything out of the ordinary. Meanwhile, there is zero evidence for your claim that TikTok takes direction from Chinese government. In fact, it's registered in Singapore, which you evidently weren't aware off.

Lol again, as I said, you’re mistaking culture influence for foreign government influence.

No I'm not. US has both cultural and government influence, and the fact that you don't understand that is absolutely hilarious.

You’re continuously sliding the conversation into trying to make it sound like I feel like US tech has no issues while being critical of Chinese tech. I am critical of both, however I’m not an “utter ignoramus” lmao and I can recognize how fucking stupid of a statement “I prefer China to have my data” is.

You have shown evidence beyond doubt that you are an ignoramus and having no actual argument to make you're just doing mud slinging at this point. 🤣

Imagine not being able to recognize that the government that has power over you having your data is far worse. This demonstrates monumental levels of stupidity.

Edit: Hahaha called it. Check out this dude’s posts, it’s all Chinese and anti-west propaganda.

Imagine being a troll for the US empire. What an utter clown you are.