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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Both statements can be true. Read it again.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Read what again? You said nothing other than Germans don't get enough credit, which is bunk, and then you talked about Israel. If anything, they get too much credit, we are talking about acknowledging genocide. It isn't something you should get credit for because it never should've happened in the first place. And it wasn't even a choice, outside forces compelled them to own up to what they did.

[–] finishsneezing@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You are using two very different things interchangeably here: genocide and acknowledgement of genocide. Acknowledgement isn’t the right description in any case, maybe education would be more accurate. Germany „gets credit“ for it, because sadly, in comparison to most other nations, it does it well. And acknowledging this might make others reconsider.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Really? You shouldn't credit people for awareness and change?

Maybe if Americans did that you guys wouldn't be burning books about slavery lol

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Germans continued to profess unwavering support for Israel as Palestinian children's bodies pilled up, so clearly their "awareness" isn't that "all mass murder of people simply for their etnicity is wrong" but rather the very specific "what we did to the Jewish People was wrong".

The former would've been "awareness", but judging by their behaviour in this what they've learned is not that a specific kind of action is wrong but rather that a specific instance against a specific people of acting thus is wrong - or if you will and using a metaphor, they didn't learn that stealing is wrong, they learned that them stealing from that specific target is wrong.

Learning to "Not steal from that person again" when caught and punished isn't really deserving of much credit.