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    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Can someone please show me these ads for snaps? I've been using Ubuntu for almost 4 years and I've never seen an ad for anything.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They don't really asvertise snaps in the OS per say, but they do push users to use snaps instead of .deb packages. Why? My best guess is they wanna monopozie the portable app market (Snaps, Flatpak, AppImage) and become sort of like what systemd is now - unreasonable to ask to use anything else but systemd.

    Pro features ads are right there when you do apt update or apt upgrade (can't remember which one of these, maybe both).

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Is it an ad or is it just letting you know about a feature you can use? I don't personally consider that an ad.

    Unpopular opinion I prefer snaps over flatpak. At least when I update snaps I actually know how much is going to be downloaded lol

    [–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

    They forced Firefox's default package into a snap recently. They did this without integrating with Gnome or common plugins like password managers. This of course broke a ton of shit out of the blue.

    Then, to get Firefox off of snap, you have to do a non zero amount of config instead of giving the users a simple option at install. If you mess that config up at all, the next Firefox update just goes back to snap.

    Forcing people's primary application into an Canonical controlled packaging system is likely worse than an ad, honestly. It made it very clear to me that Ubuntu did not respect user choice like it used to, so i migrated off of it.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Smart move 👍.

    Out of curiosity, what do you use now? LMDE?

    [–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

    I bounced around to Debain and opensuse tumbleweed, but landed on pop-os. Ubuntu without snap nonsense, optional i3 tiling manager implementation, "just works."

    For the server side, ive moved to Debian. Nothing lost at all.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Well, yeah. It's not actually an add, but it does say that there are pro features available (can't remember exactly what it said). It's just pushy, not something I'd expect to see in a Linux distro.

    I don't like either, I always use native pacakges. I repackage what is not available for the distro I currently use. It's just simpler IMO. One pacakge manager, all apps are available system wide, so if I decide to switch accounts or someone else might wanna use my computer/laptop, no prob, just log in as Guest, do whatever, log out.

    [–] pythonoob@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    So you're saying the crime is that developers... Want people to use the software they created?

    ??????

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

    There is no crime. I just don't like pushy messages or suggestions. I like using native packages. I don't like using Snaps/Flatpaks/AppImages. Stop suggesting me to use them!