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It is essential to stop using Chrome. Under the pretense of saving users from third-party spyware, Google is creating an ecosystem in which Chrome itself is the spyware. (mastodon.world)
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[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What features does Vivaldi have that don't exist in a FF extension?

And using a WebKit based browser is still better than using a chromium fork.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't know. I still prefer having vertical tabs, tab grouping, workspaces, web panels, proper loading information, full page screenshots and way more integrated in my browser instead of having to rely on possibly dozens of different extensions that in my testing never provided nearly as good of an experience.

Implementation details matter.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also mouse gestures and tab tiling. Vivaldi has so many useful features baked in that I don't want to give up.

[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Vertical tabs: Sidebery. It might actually be better than the Vivaldi native. I havent used vivaldi with vertical tabs that much, its just a work/secondary browser for me.

Gestures: Gesturify. This is just better than the vivaldi native one.

Tab tiling: well you got me on this one. This is actually pretty neat.

To be clear, I like vivaldi as well, it is my chromium of choice but with the above two extensions firefox is chefs kiss.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'll take a look, thanks. I'm not thrilled with the idea of using a dozen extensions that could break or become incompatible, but I would prefer to get off of chrome!

[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

For me it is only 5 extensions really which are essential. uBlock Origin, Dark reader, Sidebery & Gesturify & User agent switcher (it can come in handy every once in a while).

P.S. There is a little caveat to vertical tabs which i forgot. You have to follow an easy 5 step guide on how to hide horizontal tabs when sidebery is active.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Im sorry, but dont know what you are refering to. Could you elaborate?

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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[–] Samueru@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You can get vertical tabs on firefox with custom userChrome.css but it is a nightmare to setup and mozilla is only interested on breaking userChrome with every update lol.

[–] delta@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

tell me about it! literally the ONE thing keeping me from FF at the moment. vertical tabs are too vital to my workflow at this point to sacrifice.

[–] Samueru@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

tell me about it! literally the ONE thing keeping me from FF at the moment. vertical tabs are too vital to my workflow at this point to sacrifice.

I don't know exactly how to do it, I know you can because when I was in the firefoxcss subreddit there were many posts on how people came up with their own solutions for vertical tabs.

I wanted vertical tabs to save on screenspace, for some reason the default firefox has the biggest top bar of all browsers and it is horrible, this is the userChrome.css that I use, it does what I wanted but it is not vertical tabs:

https://imgur.com/h39dsHL.png

https://pastebin.com/r54QRbKx

It is also keyboard centric, I also had to install an extension because firefox (and this only happens on linux) uses alt+number to switch between tabs instead of control+number.

[–] delta@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

i just remembered this project: https://floorp.app/en/

japanese fork of firefox with lots of features and proper vertical tabs apparently. i’m looking forward to trying it.

[–] delta@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

check out Floorp: https://floorp.app/en/

[–] epchris@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I could never get hardware accelerated video working with Firefox on my Linux laptop, and Google Meet (used for work) doesn't work well ( but I guess I blame Google for that).

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Google meet sucks hard on every browser and piece of hardware I've thrown at it.

[–] uiiiq@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why is using WebKit-based browser “better” than Chromium-based one? Neither supports Google’s monopoly. Vivaldi is not just a skin for Google Chrome, it continues to support manifest v2 extensions and proper adblockers. And the company is owned by the workers, which is super cool

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Because they foster a web monoculture where the only thing that works are Chromium based browsers. For better or worse Google controls Chromium which means that they will continue to keep pushing it in the direction they want.