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What modern (gaming) laptops should be avoided for proprietary firmware or whitelists/gate keeping? Also posted Linux GPU telemetry data from Stable Diffusion (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by j4k3@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I'm looking for a machine to run OpenGPT, Stable Diffusion, and Blender. I'm on the precipice of buying an Alienware w/ Ryzen 9 with a Radeon RX6850m. I've never needed anything near this level on Linux and I'm scared TBH. I'd much rather get a System76, but the equivalent hw has Nvidia and costs more than twice as much. While skimming for issues with current hardware, I saw something about a Legion laptop that could only use Intel RAID for the file system, and that this was a nightmare with generic distro kernels. What other stuff like this is happening with current laptop hardware?

I can barely manage a Gentoo install by following the handbook, understanding a third of it, and taking a few weeks to get sorted.

I spent all of yesterday afternoon sorting though all of the Linux hardware data in this stable diffusion telemetry: https://vladmandic.github.io/sd-extension-system-info/pages/benchmark.html

That total dataset has just over 5k total entries/699 valid Linux entries not including LSFW. It contains no entries for a Radeon RX6850m. I'm super nervous to buy a laptop that costs as much as my first car. I never want to run Windows again. What resources can I check to boost my confidence that this is going to work on Fedora WS?

If anyone is interested, the SD github dataset has the following numb entries/AMD card model:

- _3 RX 5700 XT /8GB
- _2 RX _580 __ /4GB
- _3 RX _580 __ /8GB
- 15 RX 6600 XT /8GB
- _1 RX 6650 XT /8GB
- 31 RX 6700 XT /12GB
- 10 RX 6750 XT /12GB
- 10 RX 6800 __ /16GB
- 19 RX 6800 XT /16GB
- 15 RX 6900 XT /16GB
- _9 RX 6950 XT /16GB
- _7 RX 7900 XT /20GB
- 39 RX 7900XTX /24GB
- _6 RX VEGA __ /8GB

Other common cards used in Linux and in this dataset are:

NVIDIA
- 39 A100-SXM4 /79GB
- 20 GTX-1070 /8GB
- 11 GTX-1080Ti /11GB
- 13 H100-PCIe /79GB
- 12 RTX-2070 /8GB
- 12 RTX-2080 Ti /22GB
- 31 RTX-3060 /12GB
- 16 RTX-3070 /8GB
- 10 RTX-3080 /10GB
- 39 RTX-3090 /24GB
- 11 RTX-3090 Ti /24GB
- 10 RTX-4070 Ti /12GB
- 87 RTX-4090 /24GB
- 27 RTX-A4000 /16GB
- 15 RTX-A5000 /24GB
TESLA
- 26 T4 /15GB
- 11 V100S-PCIE /32GB

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[–] eshep@social.trom.tf 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@j4k3 These days I always recommend @tuxedocomputers for linux centric laptops. They have a wide and customizable range and are all built with fully linux compatible hardware. The service/support they provide is also top-notch.

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Usually linux-centric laptops cost more for inferior hardware. You're usually better off just buying a Windows computer and installing Linux on it if you want the best performance for the price.

[–] what@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found that system76 is well priced compared to Windows brands. Avoid paying for the Windows license fee!

[–] guyman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Uhh, no.

You still end up paying more for worse hardware with that brand, regardless of the windows license.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No doubt. I looked into them, star labs, and system76, none of them offer a 12GB or larger option for the same $1500-$2500 price point found in other laptops. I really need a 16GBV-24GBV option. For the actual processor the only thing I do that is demanding is CAD which is single threaded. I don't need a top model monster. I don't even need a battery, low power, or some stupid high refresh rate screen. I need something like a HP Dev One in a basic 17.3" setup with a 24GB video card for less than $2500.

[–] eshep@social.trom.tf 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@j4k3 A heafty video card on a laptop is a really tall order. Hopefully they become a little easier to find soon, I would really like to be able to do more blender CAD on the road.