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The way I see it is that the struggle was justified, but the violence on bystanders was not, if that makes sense. I can understand why it happened. But the mentality behind it is why the senseless violence continues.
The poorly trained teens and rogues wanted vengeance. They attacked and kidnapped Israelis out of anger for the Israeli army killing their families. That results in Israelis losing family members, and subsequently wanting vengeance on Hamas. They vote for Netanyahu to keep bombing Palestinians as retribution. Blaming the entire group for the actions of individuals is how this mess just keeps going.
Because of the power dynamics, it doesn't really matter if Palestinians forgive the IDF. The IDF will continue. The imbalance in power requires Israelis to move towards a peaceful solution even when they may want vengeance.
Regarding the official orders, we know that kidnapping civilians was likely part of their plan. With the number abducted, I doubt it's just rogue elements. That's still evil orders. I agree there's a big difference from purposely bombing hospitals and refugee camps, but it's still evil.
I believe leadership expressed this was the outcome they wanted, in terms of creating active conflict. They wanted active warfare to reignite and bring attention to them. I don't disagree with their ends, but I can't agree with their means. What Israel is doing is pure evil, and it's exactly what Hamas expected them to do. The purpose of the attack war to draw out a pure evil response by Israel towards the Palestinians.
What's the morality of that? Purposely throwing civilians in the way of a known violent entity? Hamas is a group independent of Palestine. It may have Palestinians in its ranks who want revenge, but it isn't a Palestinian liberation front. The wellbeing of Palestinians is not their primary goal.
Bringing attention to their plight is worthwhile, but not by setting them up for slaughter.
Well the israelis voted for Netanyahu and his Likud before Oct7. The Palestinians in the West Bank aren't Hamas. Ask them how well "trying to get along peacefully" goes.
israel is the party that doesn't want peace. They will keep murdering Palestinians and steal their land even if the Palestinians don't fight back. It's like telling Jews to get along with Hitler while Hitler is the one constantly trying to kill them
The senseless violence will only continue until israel is removed, just like how peace returned to South Africa after they overthrew the Apartheid regime there.
There's many Christians living in Gaza and even Hamas isn't harming them, only israel wants Genocide
Was South Africa "removed' though? Or was it a new regime that made a lot of changes? I believe a far left government would work just as well to fix the issue. Plus it's easier to advocate for a non genocidal government than it is for removal.
Unfortunately I took don't think there's the numbers for that. You'd need an installed government in this case.
Maybe it would be possible to change minds if Hamas fought an information war instead, so people would be completely aware of what their army was doing. That's what got the US out of Vietnam, when everyday people saw what was happening.
Hey by the way, about this article's credibility...
https://mondoweiss.net/2024/01/family-of-key-case-in-new-york-times-october-7-sexual-violence-report-renounces-story-says-reporters-manipulated-them/