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Only one in 10 feel leaving the EU has helped their finances, while just 9% say it has benefited the NHS, despite £350m a week pledge according to new poll

A clear majority of the British public now believes Brexit has been bad for the UK economy, has driven up prices in shops, and has hampered government attempts to control immigration, according to a poll by Opinium to mark the third anniversary of the UK leaving the EU single market and customs union.

The survey of more than 2,000 UK voters also finds strikingly low numbers of people who believe that Brexit has benefited them or the country.

Just one in 10 believe leaving the EU has helped their personal financial situation, against 35% who say it has been bad for their finances, while just 9% say it has been good for the NHS, against 47% who say it has had a negative effect.

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[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Teddy Roosevelt was a progressive, part of the "progressive era" in US political history. There isn't a way to spin it such that he can accurately be called a conservative. The conservative position on national parks, at least in the west, would be that they should remain open for resource extraction. We see this at play with the recent bullshit surrounding the Bears Ears National Monument de-designation under Trump and the ongoing effort to allow drilling in the Artic National Wildlife Refuge.

You are simply objectively incorrect.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

More straw man arguments, I never called him a conservative.

The conservative position on national parks, at least in the west, would be that they should remain open for resource extraction.

Yes, that's the point, but also consider that this how it started, before progressive politics made it about nature preservation. Read the Wikipedia page or the quote I have taken have of it if you're feeling lazy.

You are simply objectively incorrect.

You are simply not trying to understand what I mean because you'd rather confirm the bias you have formed about me when you've seen the downvotes on my comments.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Horseshit. I've spent literally decades reporting on land-use issues in the rural west. That, together with the reintroduction of wolves in the intermountain west, is kind of my life's work as a journalist thus far.

I actually don't even know where to start with how wrong you are.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago

So the wikipedia page about the history of conservationism is completely wrong? I'm not claiming anything more than what's on it. Maybe it's important for your job to read this page.